Ultimately Off-Topic V: NemeSinx

[thecrimson]

Does anyone here play Magic: The Gathering?

[sage6paths]

DARK KNIGHT RISES TRAILER! YES! YES! YES!
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[Sinx]

DARK KNIGHT RISES TRAILER! YES! YES! YES!
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Sweeeeeet! This is looking awesome. Hathaway isn't as bad as I thought she would be.

[Balfro]

Actually if the new members joined soon after Season 1's events, then that could explain their expertise. I doubt they joined so soon as in a month or two before Season 2. Unless it was stated somewhere and I just missed it.

Actually I did in fact enjoy seeing two of my favorite heroes (Blue Beetle and Tim) in action. I suppose you'd have rather had all the characters, but they needed to be elsewhere. And it's difficult to give EVERY character screentime. I imagine next episode will be about Superboy, Nightwing, and Miss Martian going to Rann (is that right?). And are you saying Blue Beetle, Beast Boy, Tim, and Wonder Girl aren't well-known. Beside maybe not knowing about WG, I suspect the other two are know from the Teen Titans cartoon and Batman: Brave and the Bold. And Tim from the Batman cartoons.

As for them being too old, it's not like this is the Teen Titans, it's Young Justice. Being in your early 20's is, IMO, still young.

Those are all valid points. And don't get me wrong, this is still my favorite cartoon (possibly ever), but it just seems so drastically different than as little as one episode ago. I mean, look how long it took for Zatanna to join the team. THAT was a perfect transition time for a new member. Then Rocket seemed to come in out of nowhere, but I didn't so much care because frankly the team needed one more female. But then BAM Season 2 starts and it might as well be YOUNG JUSTICE: SEASON 5. One or two new characters on the team would have been fine, but we got 5 or so, and half of my favorites are nowhere to be seen (yet) and the others are practically different characters because they've aged and look & act different. I liked Miss Martian's relationship with with Super Boy and was looking forward to more of that, but BAM that's over. I was looking forward to more Zatanna / Doc Fate stuff, but BAM that's over (and it has to be, because if they haven't resolved any issues after 5 years, especially being on the same team now, then there's something wrong.

I wouldn't say that those new characters are not known. But they certainly aren't your run-of-the-mill characters. Like Rocket. You know what I loved about the original team? They were all mini-versions of the Justice League. Sure now we have Batgirl and Wonder Girl, but that doesn't make up for a second (un-needed) Robin, an Atlantean that I've never even heard of, and what I consider the worst excuse for a comic-book character.

My favorite was Red Arrow, especially at the end with his big reveal. He's now 23. Since he was always older and off to the side anyway his absence and/or aging doesn't hit as hard. I hope we see more of him.

The best way I can describe my feeling toward the change is if someone were to read Ultimate Spider-Man from 2000 to 2006 then skip forward and start reading where Miles Morales takes over. Sure, it's still Ultimate Spider-Man, but literally in name only. You can't just throw a new character or team at fans without finishing the story of the old one(s). I'd be more interested in seeing Young Justice: Year 2 rather than the story that they have planned for this season.


But anyway, I'm just needlessly ranting now.

[wyokid]

spoilers:

- Superboy and Miss Martian are still on the team The tone is pretty much the same. Mostly serious, with some humor peppered throughout.

end of spoilers

DC Nation sucks so bad. It's only redemption is the shorts because both of the shows are really bad.

[thecrimson]

Those are all valid points. And don't get me wrong, this is still my favorite cartoon (possibly ever), but it just seems so drastically different than as little as one episode ago. I mean, look how long it took for Zatanna to join the team. THAT was a perfect transition time for a new member. Then Rocket seemed to come in out of nowhere, but I didn't so much care because frankly the team needed one more female. But then BAM Season 2 starts and it might as well be YOUNG JUSTICE: SEASON 5. One or two new characters on the team would have been fine, but we got 5 or so, and half of my favorites are nowhere to be seen (yet) and the others are practically different characters because they've aged and look & act different. I liked Miss Martian's relationship with with Super Boy and was looking forward to more of that, but BAM that's over. I was looking forward to more Zatanna / Doc Fate stuff, but BAM that's over (and it has to be, because if they haven't resolved any issues after 5 years, especially being on the same team now, then there's something wrong.

I wouldn't say that those new characters are not known. But they certainly aren't your run-of-the-mill characters. Like Rocket. You know what I loved about the original team? They were all mini-versions of the Justice League. Sure now we have Batgirl and Wonder Girl, but that doesn't make up for a second (un-needed) Robin, an Atlantean that I've never even heard of, and what I consider the worst excuse for a comic-book character.

My favorite was Red Arrow, especially at the end with his big reveal. He's now 23. Since he was always older and off to the side anyway his absence and/or aging doesn't hit as hard. I hope we see more of him.

The best way I can describe my feeling toward the change is if someone were to read Ultimate Spider-Man from 2000 to 2006 then skip forward and start reading where Miles Morales takes over. Sure, it's still Ultimate Spider-Man, but literally in name only. You can't just throw a new character or team at fans without finishing the story of the old one(s). I'd be more interested in seeing Young Justice: Year 2 rather than the story that they have planned for this season.


But anyway, I'm just needlessly ranting now.

I agree with you on being hit with all the new characters, especially as Rocket only joined the team a few episodes ago, and now she's not even on the team anymore. I was really looking forward to Zatanna/Robin stuff, but that doesn't seem to be the case 5 years later. Ironically, almost every new character has appeared in Season 1.

I also agree with the Zatanna being the perfect transition time, and the Ultimate Spider-Man comparison. I wish we could just watch the five years, instead of five years later.

DC Nation sucks so bad. It's only redemption is the shorts because both of the shows are really bad.

Man, do we have to disagree so soon? I just got back a few days ago. I think DC Nation rocks, and both shows are awesome. Specifically enjoyed the recent GL episode.

[wyokid]

Man, do we have to disagree so soon? I just got back a few days ago. I think DC Nation rocks, and both shows are awesome. Specifically enjoyed the recent GL episode.

I'm sorry but they're both predictable cliched messes. I don't like any of the characters and neither of the shows have any charm to them.

[thecrimson]

I'm sorry but they're both predictable cliched messes. I don't like any of the characters and neither of the shows have any charm to them.

I disagree. Cliche is not so bad. Eventually things that aren't cliche will become cliche freeing up things that were cliche, but are no longer. Favorite character from the GL show is the Red Lantern. From YJ: Blue Beetle, Nightwing, Zatanna, and Kid Flash.

Didn't you say you were tired of arguing?

[wyokid]

I disagree. Cliche is not so bad. Eventually things that aren't cliche will become cliche freeing up things that were cliche, but are no longer. Favorite character from the GL show is the Red Lantern. From YJ: Blue Beetle, Nightwing, Zatanna, and Kid Flash.

Didn't you say you were tired of arguing?

I am SSSOOO glad Kid Flash is gone, worst character in that show.

I'm fine with things being cliche, it's when predictably gets thrown in that it becomes a problem.

I'm not arguing, I'm stating my opinion. Depending on how you respond to this post it could very well be the end of the discussion.

[thecrimson]

I am SSSOOO glad Kid Flash is gone, worst character in that show.

I'm fine with things being cliche, it's when predictably gets thrown in that it becomes a problem.

I'm not arguing, I'm stating my opinion. Depending on how you respond to this post it could very well be the end of the discussion.

I think he might be back later for the Red Arrow mystery.

I respect your opinion, so I suppose there's nothing left to say.

[wyokid]

DARK KNIGHT RISES TRAILER! YES! YES! YES!
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I wish I knew why, but the more I see of this film the less excited I am.

[Drz]

Here's the new Dark Knight Rises trailer:

There's definitely a different direction they've been going with these trailers for Batman 3 than they have for the previous films,these all feel just so sad like the evil has won.

I like how Zatanna is still in the show, but I really wanted to see more of her and her father/Doc Fate

Why do you think she's in the Justice League and not part of the Team? She's trying to safe her father and thus is getting closer and closer with Doctor Fate.

. I don't wanna sound like a downer but this show has been a solid 9 and 10 for 26 whole episodes and now suddenly it's slammed with a 4.

Just like Spider-Men was the worst thing ever even before a single issue was released? Please Balfro, noone takes these comments seriously, well okay, serious enough to pin point how stupid they are.

Super Boy shouldn't be Super BOY anymore... Just sayin'.

He's stuck to the body, hence he's kept the codename. He will either never mature or he's aging process is very very slowed down.

Here the entire team of Young Justice was replaced with sub-par characters

Noone was replaced, the cast was simply enlarged. Just because some character isn't part of the Team, doesn't mean they're outside the show. This has always been a DC Universe show.

Also, beside Beast Boy, and a Robin, this isn't like the TT cartoon. It would need Cyborg, Starfire, and Raven for that. And Tim isn't even the Robin from that cartoon.

Exactly. If anything, this is more like Peter David's Young Justice alltogether.

About the missing characters: When they make an appearance I'll be happy. But an entire episode about 3 characters I haven't even been introduced yet? It really does seem (like sage said) that a season, or at least a bulk of episodes, was missed.

It's called non chronological storytelling.

Having a show called YOUNG JUSTICE which is about YOUNG heroes doesn't really work when you skip FIVE years.

Why not? Superboy is now 6 years old.

If this were a show about adult heroes then sure, by all means, skip as many years as you like. But don't do it with a cast of kids and teenagers. Superboy, Nightwing and Miss Martian shouldn't even be on the team anymore since they're at least in their twenties now, if not 18 minimum.

They're the new mentors and den mothers, like Black Canary, Red Tornado, Captain Marvel and Batman we're. I didn't see you complain about those characters, infact you kept praising Captain Marvel constantly.

Those are all valid points. And don't get me wrong, this is still my favorite cartoon (possibly ever), but it just seems so drastically different than as little as one episode ago. I mean, look how long it took for Zatanna to join the team. THAT was a perfect transition time for a new member. Then Rocket seemed to come in out of nowhere, but I didn't so much care because frankly the team needed one more female. But then BAM Season 2 starts and it might as well be YOUNG JUSTICE: SEASON 5. One or two new characters on the team would have been fine, but we got 5 or so, and half of my favorites are nowhere to be seen

So this is truly simply about you whining about your favorite characters not appearing in the 1st episode, wow Balfro.

and the others are practically different characters because they've aged and look & act different. I liked Miss Martian's relationship with with Super Boy and was looking forward to more of that, but BAM that's over. I was looking forward to more Zatanna / Doc Fate stuff, but BAM that's over (and it has to be, because if they haven't resolved any issues after 5 years, especially being on the same team now, then there's something wrong.

What a load of pessimistic bullshit. ;)

You know what I loved about the original team? They were all mini-versions of the Justice League.

No they weren't. Superman isn't a Hulk with anger issues, Batman isn't a laughing daredevil, Green Arrow isn't a once criminal with criminal family, Aquaman isn't a hard discipled student of magic and combat, Flash isn't as inexperienced as Kid Flash nor as comedic and so forward. They we're protegés of JL members, yes. But mini-versions? Not at all.

You might as well say Monica Chang is the same exact character as Natasha.

Sure now we have Batgirl and Wonder Girl, but that doesn't make up for a second (un-needed) Robin, an Atlantean that I've never even heard of, and what I consider the worst excuse for a comic-book character.

Why is a new Robin unneeded? Gotham always needs a Boy Wonder, not to mention Young Justice season 1 had plenty of characters you never heard of, btu now you just wanna be pissy whiny and claim this is the worst excuse for a character? When did Canada become this whiny, Balfro? When? When did you become America? :P

My favorite was Red Arrow, especially at the end with his big reveal. He's now 23. Since he was always older and off to the side anyway his absence and/or aging doesn't hit as hard. I hope we see more of him.

He's a central subplot of the entire season.

The best way I can describe my feeling toward the change is if someone were to read Ultimate Spider-Man from 2000 to 2006 then skip forward and start reading where Miles Morales takes over. Sure, it's still Ultimate Spider-Man, but literally in name only. You can't just throw a new character or team at fans without finishing the story of the old one(s). I'd be more interested in seeing Young Justice: Year 2 rather than the story that they have planned for this season.

Haha and how do you know this? Invasion by fucking Darkseid < Young Justice just hanging around in 2nd year and fightning common criminals.

But anyway, I'm just needlessly ranting now.

You've been the whole time.

Man, do we have to disagree so soon? I just got back a few days ago. I think DC Nation rocks, and both shows are awesome. Specifically enjoyed the recent GL episode.

DC Nation does indeed rock, and it only keeps getting better and better when the new Batman show launches among others.

Action Comics #9 preview! OBAMAMAN!


Detective Comics #9 preview! Night of the Owls!



Earth-2 #1 Preview! James Robinson gets his own continuity!

Batwing #9! Introducing Marcus To!

[wyokid]

‎"It'll be the most entertaining 15 minutes of your life since you lost your virginity!" -Sumerian Records

[MarvelMaster616]

DARK KNIGHT RISES TRAILER! YES! YES! YES!
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It looks so awesome, yet I'm still more excited for the Avengers. I've heard a few theories about how Nolan is going to try and end his trilogy. If he ends up killing Bruce Wayne or making someone else Batman, I would consider that a letdown. I don't know how he can end what he's set up here, but I'm definitely going to see it. I've just been weary of the third installment of a sequel wince X-men: The Last Stand was such an epic fail.

[Drz]

But the circustances around Last Stand's failure does not come from the fact it's a 3rd installment, but by it's creative team.