WWE RAW II: RAW is Jericho!

[Alex]

Beth says
' I HATE YOUR STUPID NOSE!"

Miz says, "It's your fault this happened to my career!"

[The Great Grape]

Just saying if Kelly don't give people a reason to make post like that then you would see fewer post concerning it.

One interesting thing about the comparison is the Stephanie has almost certainly been more harmful to the product overall than Kelly.

And is arguably as bad or even worse at her job to boot.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

didn't care for RAW this week, needs less HHH and more big johnny, especially now that he might be free of punk. i hate the elimination chamber ppv btw.

and am i getting this right, are people actually blaming eve for getting her face smashed?? i mean i know some of us love beth and she is a good worker, but she fukt up.

[JCAll]

Probably never, he has his own company now that has nothing to do with wrestling.
Edit: ...correction, it has nothing to do with making wrestling.

Not never. Give it another decade, and he might start making guest appearances every couple years just for the hell of it. And of course when Vince finally kicks off they'll have a special RAW and he'll show.

[marshal99]

didn't care for RAW this week, needs less HHH and more big johnny, especially now that he might be free of punk. i hate the elimination chamber ppv btw.

and am i getting this right, are people actually blaming eve for getting her face smashed?? i mean i know some of us love beth and she is a good worker, but she fukt up.

Don't think it's really Eve or Beth fault , Beth gives as hard as she takes. After all , i remember when Beth first debuted on RAW and Victoria broke her jaw in like 3 places with a vicious slap during a match like in her first month of her debut , she continue with the match and won it but she was out with injury for like a year afterwards. She did not complain , she did not blame it on Victoria.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

Don't think it's really Eve or Beth fault , Beth gives as hard as she takes.

After all , i remember when Beth first debuted on RAW and Victoria broke her jaw in like 3 places with a vicious slap during a match like in her first month of her debut , she continue with the match and won it but she was out with injury for like a year afterwards. She did not complain , she did not blame it on Victoria.

that's all well and good but no, a clothesline is not supposed to involve somebody getting a fist to the nose no matter how hard she "takes". beth was sloppy there and fukt up eves face. don't get me wrong because shit happens even with the safest wrestlers, but there's no way that's eve's fault.

as for beths injury IIRC beth's jaw got broken when her knee hit her the face when victoria rolled her up from behind. if victoria can slap somebody hard enough to break their jaw she's a damn monster.

[marshal99]

That was what was reported as i recall , that it was Victoria slap that broke her jaw. Hasn't seen the match in ages so i cannot comment on what actually happened.

[The Great Grape]

Victoria was fairly frequently having accidents as her position in the WWE declined. Trish, Candice, Beth, and Michelle at least. I wondered at the time if it had something to do with frustration over not being the next one to get a big push (or Playboy exposure) to Trish/Lita level status? Though Vicky/Tara largely cleaned it up in TNA.

Far as Beth/Eve goes, looked like it was mostly on Beth to me. Stuff happens though. On message boards, the lesser worker (or less liked person) will often get cited whether it was their fault in the particular instance or not.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

That was what was reported as i recall , that it was Victoria slap that broke her jaw. Hasn't seen the match in ages so i cannot comment on what actually happened.

i think only the assclowns on youtube came up with that one, if not you have to chalk that up as a freak accident not a botch. she was supposed to do an open-hand slap to the face and that's what she did, if it somehow broke her jaw that's rather unusual.

Victoria was fairly frequently having accidents as her position in the WWE declined. Trish, Candice, Beth, and Michelle at least. I wondered at the time if it had something to do with frustration over not being the next one to get a big push (or Playboy exposure) to Trish/Lita level status? Though Vicky/Tara largely cleaned it up in TNA.

Far as Beth/Eve goes, looked like it was mostly on Beth to me. Stuff happens though. On message boards, the lesser worker (or less liked person) will often get cited whether it was their fault in the particular instance or not.

seriously there was nothing eve could've done differently.

[Majinoaw]

Just saying if Kelly don't give people a reason to make post like that then you would see fewer post concerning it.

Legato, I think we established that the heel Bella Twins, with one as champ, was significantly more entertaining than Kelly Kelly.

[Alex]

didn't care for RAW this week, needs less HHH and more big johnny, especially now that he might be free of punk. i hate the elimination chamber ppv btw.

and am i getting this right, are people actually blaming eve for getting her face smashed?? i mean i know some of us love beth and she is a good worker, but she fukt up.

We literaly agree on every point.
*Hug*
Except for the bit about no Punk, Punk and Jericho and Bryan were the only things i liked about the show.

[Legato]

Legato, I think we established that the heel Bella Twins, with one as champ, was significantly more entertaining than Kelly Kelly.

Helps that they both have personality.

[Alex]

Helps that they both have personality.

Kelly has a personality, she's strips and had sex with this guy

[Legato]

Kelly has a personality, she's strips and had sex with this guy

That was back when she was actually interesting.

[Siddon]

seriously there was nothing eve could've done differently.

Well except for raising her head instead of lowering her chin to her neck.

She could have also moved towards her beth's forearm and not pulled away so she got her fist.

And she could wear her hair back so people who are doing the move can see her face.

But no I guess you can't blame her if you neglect her fear, her preparation, and her body positioning.

But no she botches against the Bella's it's the Bella's fault, she botches against Beth it's Beth's fault.