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    Quote Originally Posted by edhopper View Post
    True to an extent. He was a villain in that vein. But Silva had a back story and motivation behind his actions. We knew who he was and what he wanted. The Joker was a sociopath who, as Alfred said, "just wanted to see it all burn." We never knew who or what he was.

    I thought he was much more menacing than many of the Bond villains.
    Joker wanted to see the World burn; Silva wanted to see M's skirt burn.
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    It felt like a generic action film to me, like all Bond films. Really predictable.

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    Skyfall is a great flick,better than Quantum but why one Earth is it being hailed as the second coming? people must've really hated Quantum(which I though was serviceable).

    My main problem with the movie was Silva's "computer" skills,I'm sorry but I just could'nt buy him being a cyber terrorist and those hacking skills merely came off as plot devices instead of an actual part of his skill set.

    It's like giving Joker martial art skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkseidpwns View Post
    Skyfall is a great flick,better than Quantum but why one Earth is it being hailed as the second coming? people must've really hated Quantum(which I though was serviceable).

    My main problem with the movie was Silva's "computer" skills,I'm sorry but I just could'nt buy him being a cyber terrorist and those hacking skills merely came off as plot devices instead of an actual part of his skill set.

    It's like giving Joker martial art skills.
    It was established that he went rogue by hacking the Chinese. So his skill set as a spy was computers and hacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    It felt like a generic action film to me, like all Bond films. Really predictable.
    I don't understand your point. Is it that you don't understand how anybody likes Bond films. Or you don't understand how some of us who are fans of Bond films think this one is a great one?

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    Just a heads up to fellow Bond fans : Bond 50 complete blu-ray set for $99.99 over at Amazon as the deal of the day. Less than $5 a movie was my sweet spot. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by edhopper View Post
    I don't understand your point. Is it that you don't understand how anybody likes Bond films. Or you don't understand how some of us who are fans of Bond films think this one is a great one?
    It's the latter; I enjoy the old Bond films to some extent and I appreciate its place in time. I just don't think they've successfully modernized Bond at all since Casino Royale.

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    I really liked it. I don't really think Bond needs to be 'modernized' very much, though. I also don't think that was the goal of this one, at all.

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    Idk, the whole thing just feels really generic to me. Enjoyed Ghost Protocol much more.

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    which is fine, but that isn't James Bond. it's silly to knock James Bond movies for being James Bond movies... or for not being Mission Impossible movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the goddamn batman View Post
    which is fine, but that isn't James Bond. it's silly to knock James Bond movies for being James Bond movies... or for not being Mission Impossible movies.
    agreed...Ive always seen Bond movies as action movies with a little extra flavor....and there are some mediocre ones out there...mostly the ones with Roger Moore, but when you have a film series that has gone on for this long, you are going to have varying levels of quality
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    Quote Originally Posted by the goddamn batman View Post
    which is fine, but that isn't James Bond. it's silly to knock James Bond movies for being James Bond movies... or for not being Mission Impossible movies.
    Didn't mean to imply they should be more like the MI movies. Just story-wise, this one just felt really predictable in comparison.

    I don't know, I wanted to like it but couldn't.

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    cool read from Vulture - Which Bond villains' plan had the greatest chance for financial success?

    http://www.vulture.com/2012/11/which...ve-worked.html
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    I wonder who they'd use as the villain for the next movie. There were rumors of Blofeld, and some early speculation had Fiennes playing that role. Question is, are the rights to Blofeld/Spectre etc. still tied up? I'm not sure about that one.

    I'd argue for a more serious take on Blofeld, he was fairly menacing as an unseen/shrouded figure in FRWL and TB, but the role quickly degenerated into camp and parody, especially in Diamonds Are Forever and For Your Eyes Only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    It's the latter; I enjoy the old Bond films to some extent and I appreciate its place in time. I just don't think they've successfully modernized Bond at all since Casino Royale.

    Exactly. They had did it so perfectly with CR. A brave new world was there for the taking. Amidst legal problems, too much waiting and so forth, it sort of feels like Brocoli/Wilson lost track of what made CR so important and ground-breaking and fresh.
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