Black Panther Appreciation VII: "Return of the King"

[RolandJP]

Great Avengers episode.

Loved Ms. Marvel.


Sorry to NICKPICK CHRIS YOST 's stellar work.

But I am still not a fan of T'challa runnin on all fours...i wouldnt mind if he did that scaling walls but its a bit undignified.

Not to mention he has never ran that way in any comic ive ever read.

I mean does Black Widow descend from high places with silk coming out of her bum.

Or does Ant Man crawl on his Belly.

I dont get why T'challa has to run on all fours.

[Greg Anderson]

DAMMIT! I totally forgot it was going to be on!

What happened?

[Greg Anderson]

Do people have a link to these episodes? Can ya'll, you know... hook a Wakandan up?


(Slapping arm and going through withdrawal!)

[RolandJP]

Someone already posted Avengers Youtube links

[Umbra]

It's because they are going with T'challa not being human...But superhuman... It's the same in Ironman:Armored Adventures. He probably runs a lot faster that way too...they are literally making him transfer into a Panther, it's something he would have learned from studying cats movements. It doesn't bother me at all. But I can understand what you are saying,

Great Avengers episode.

Loved Ms. Marvel.


Sorry to NICKPICK CHRIS YOST 's stellar work.

But I am still not a fan of T'challa runnin on all fours...i wouldnt mind if he did that scaling walls but its a bit undignified.

Not to mention he has never ran that way in any comic ive ever read.

I mean does Black Widow descend from high places with silk coming out of her bum.

Or does Ant Man crawl on his Belly.

I dont get why T'challa has to run on all fours.

[RolandJP]

It's because they are going with T'challa not being human...But superhuman... It's the same in Ironman:Armored Adventures. He probably runs a lot faster that way too...they are literally making him transfer into a Panther, it's something he would have learned from studying cats movements. It doesn't bother me at all. But I can understand what you are saying,

TO be honest its a little nickpick..I could live with it..My FEAR would be that he would lose points with an audience..for running that way. Not to mention the constant disses..calling him an Avenger pet or something.

[marvell2100]

Yeah, this new Vision has been powered down big time.

Then again... Vision shouldn't be handling Thor... but Thor's power levels go up and down depending on the story.

IMO, yeah vision was too strong. I like Ms. Marvel's level just fine though. Although part of vision is him being a new foe, he will fall back in line after this performance. Still I caught up good stuff. Black Panther is pretty awesome, a shame Loeb is going to ruin it.

Check out the Avengers issues where they first fought Count Nefaria. Nefaria stopped Thor's hammer with his bare hands. Vision was the one who took him out. I'm not saying he's at Thor's levels but he's been shown severely underpowered. Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a Vision thread but he's my 3rd fave character behind Iron Man and BP.

[Umbra]

TO be honest its a little nickpick..I could live with it..My FEAR would be that he would lose points with an audience..for running that way. Not to mention the constant disses..calling him an Avenger pet or something.

Not if he is kicking ass. Yes..but if he is..probably not. That's the key. If he's as good as he is on these shows and being that smart..ton one could say that. I think IMAA did a good job showing how a person in the MU would view the Panther..what is he? Actual Black Panther, were- Panther, a guy in a suit...they should never be able to tell between the 3.

I showed my brother in-law "Line of Fire" episode from IMAA with his son..and they were wowed. As long as he is the most dynamic character, badass and skilled,.he's fine...and they have to show him being fast, and agile. That's the things they noticed...they are not comic fans.

[Greg Anderson]

I can see the nit pick for Panther running on all fours, but I sorta like it some times. It definitely shows a connection to being one with the Panther God, and it definitely goes with Panther being rather feline and fighting with this fluidity. The only time it bothered me was when he wasn't in battle, but a threat did come about and the Avengers got ready and Panther who was in the back crawled on all fours just to be in front of them. There wasn't nothing really wrong with it, but it did look rather awkward and I dunno if I can pin point what about it that bothered me. But when he's in actual battle, it can be a nice visual.

[Vic Vega]

Yeah, this new Vision has been powered down big time.

Then again... Vision shouldn't be handling Thor... but Thor's power levels go up and down depending on the story.

I haven't seen any of the new episodes yet, but Vision going all out could give Thor a run for his money.

Between being able to up his density and strength level and being able to ghost thru his foes, he could give Thor problems if he didnt go all out.

Vision gets underplayed in the for the same reason Ms Marvel does: so Thor and Iron Man can put in work and so the comics don't end in 2 pages.

[The Cat]

Check out the Avengers issues where they first fought Count Nefaria. Nefaria stopped Thor's hammer with his bare hands. Vision was the one who took him out. I'm not saying he's at Thor's levels but he's been shown severely underpowered. Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a Vision thread but he's my 3rd fave character behind Iron Man and BP.

I remember those issues, when the Avengers fought Nefaria - good times!

Regarding the Vision power levels. It seems accurate to me. I think that over time, the more human he became, the more limitations he placed upon himself.

[FriendRoss]

there was a show on the discovery channel… or maybe it was that "stan lees super humans" show.. can't remember


but what i remember is a guy who ran on all 4's like that. they did a bunch of mo-cap and timing. found his stride to be efficient and it clocked at faster then "average" times

[marvell2100]

I remember those issues, when the Avengers fought Nefaria - good times!

Regarding the Vision power levels. It seems accurate to me. I think that over time, the more human he became the more limitations he placed upon himself.

I think so as well. I think he was holding back alot of times becasue he was afraid.

Okay, back on BP. T'Challa running on all fours makes him move faster and also makes him a smaller target. And he doesn't stay on all fours all the time. If he did, then that would be a problem for me.

[Umbra]

I can see the nit pick for Panther running on all fours, but I sorta like it some times. It definitely shows a connection to being one with the Panther God, and it definitely goes with Panther being rather feline and fighting with this fluidity. The only time it bothered me was when he wasn't in battle, but a threat did come about and the Avengers got ready and Panther who was in the back crawled on all fours just to be in front of them. There wasn't nothing really wrong with it, but it did look rather awkward and I dunno if I can pin point what about it that bothered me. But when he's in actual battle, it can be a nice visual.

That's the one time it bothered me also. Lol, it looked awkward and funny. So that's how not to use it. It walked out in front like a bit bull. Lmao. I think IMAA has him down better then EMH when it comes to how he should be shown powers wise and visually. He only ran like that a few times on the show..all of it was for function. Other then that ran on two feet when it came to fight.

[Greg Anderson]

there was a show on the discovery channel… or maybe it was that "stan lees super humans" show.. can't remember


but what i remember is a guy who ran on all 4's like that. they did a bunch of mo-cap and timing. found his stride to be efficient and it clocked at faster then "average" times

Yeah, I definitely see Panther being faster due to running on all fours. Speed added due to using your extra limbs to propel you further, and it does put him in a very unpredictable form.