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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    That would be awesome. But I doubt Marvel would do anything like that. They would probably put Loeb on the Avengers or NA.

    If so..I rather have T'challa in limbo.
    I can think of a lot of things I'd rather have then Loeb on a book I enjoy.

    BUt look on the bright side; if he does have Black Panher in a book he writes it's actually going to be Captain America in that costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose100 View Post
    NA is to me a noir/street book. It would work. This would take them back to their roots.
    I agree with you. I think Mr. Liss would rock. Just look at his MM book.


    But do you think Marvel cares about stuff like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    I agree with you. I think Mr. Liss would rock. Just look at his MM book.


    But do you think Marvel cares about stuff like that?
    MM? whats that?

    Well the thing is NA is a strong brand. Alot of people have handled them well like Aaron,Brubaker and etc..

    Panther clearly fits well in the noir categories as he does on the other teams.

    It would be a great extension of what is going on in BP right now.

    Given that they are whittiling down their books I think it's likely that at least NA will maintain it's noir angle. I am discussing it here b/c I think BP would be GREAT on this team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose100 View Post
    MM? whats that?

    Well the thing is NA is a strong brand. Alot of people have handled them well like Aaron,Brubaker and etc..

    Panther clearly fits well in the noir categories as he does on the other teams.

    It would be a great extension of what is going on in BP right now.

    Given that they are whittiling down their books I think it's likely that at least NA will maintain it's noir angle. I am discussing it here b/c I think BP would be GREAT on this team!
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    In case you've missed it the first time (or wouldn't mind seeing it again), my tribute to BP and the Wakanda mythos!

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    Hey, new thread!


    I want a room with a view and air conditioning... No more ceiling fans!

    And who keeps letting those Trolls in I thought this was a secure building!

    Carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX HECTIC View Post
    Hey, new thread!


    I want a room with a view and air conditioning... No more ceiling fans!

    And who keeps letting those Trolls in I thought this was a secure building!

    Carry on...
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    T'challa can't lead a team because... It's unAmerican!!!


    That's the truth and I'm sticking by it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Yeah, no. You don't get to decide what the goal post is, champ.

    My post was simply to point out that, yes, Hawkeye is a good choice for leader over T'Challa. Hawkeye has way more leadership cred than T'Challa, in the end.
    I wouldn't say that Hawkeye was the better choice, I would say he was the "SAFER" choice. With Hawkeye you know what you are going to get. And for some they will take safe over the unknown every time.

    I find the archetype of leadership in comics ( Psychologically) Interesting.

    If you notice..the powerful beings never lead--

    Captain America over Thor. Iron Man. Hulk. etc.
    Cyclops over Wolverine. Colossus. Emma. Jean.

    What follows is the low level characters are then wrapped int heir leadership role. It becomes what defines them. Hence why readership is so reluctant to let the archetype go.

    they (leaders) are USUALLY MALE.

    Its really Bizarre. And one of the standard conventions I would turn on end.
    (with the exception of Steve Rogers. Hawkeye.) Shouldnt Black Widow lead Secret Avengers?? I mean if you take into consideration experience in espionage?
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    Lets compare the job qualifications of Hawkeye and Black Panther.


    Hawkeye--ex-con. Circus Archer with skill. Courageous. Tenacious.
    Black Panther--Royal. Educated. Skilled fighter with Genius Intellect.

    Now going purely objectively..on paper who should lead?
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    You have a background in psych?

    Quote Originally Posted by RolandJP View Post
    I wouldn't say that Hawkeye was the better choice, I would say he was the "SAFER" choice. With Hawkeye you know what you are going to get. And for some they will take safe over the unknown every time.

    I find the archetype of leadership in comics ( Psychologically) Interesting.

    If you notice..the powerful beings never lead--USUALLY MALE.

    Captain America over Thor. Iron Man. Hulk. etc.
    Cyclops over Wolverine. Colossus. Emma. Jean.

    What follows is the low level characters are then wrapped int heir leadership role. It becomes what defines them. Hence why readership is so reluctant to let the archetype go.

    Its really Bizarre. And one of the standard conventions I would turn on end.
    (with the exception of Steve Rogers. Hawkeye.) Shouldnt Black Widow lead Secret Avengers?? I mean if you take into consideration experience in espionage?
    Quote Originally Posted by RolandJP View Post
    Lets compare the job qualifications of Hawkeye and Black Panther.


    Hawkeye--ex-con. Circus Archer with skill. Courageous. Tenacious.
    Black Panther--Royal. Educated. Skilled fighter with Genius Intellect.

    Now going purely objectively..on paper who should lead?
    lol dude that is exactly my argument word for word maybe you can do a better job convincing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose100 View Post
    You have a background in psych?
    Yes. My family are all academic professors at various universities. I am..the "odd duck"

    I chose to go DJ'ing and live the gypsy life instead of school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandJP View Post
    Lets compare the job qualifications of Hawkeye and Black Panther.


    Hawkeye--ex-con. Circus Archer with skill. Courageous. Tenacious.
    Black Panther--Royal. Educated. Skilled fighter with Genius Intellect.

    Now going purely objectively..on paper who should lead?
    Pretty much. Though Hawkeye was more experience leading a classic Avengers team. Black Panther is actually more suited to lead the Secret Avengers in my opinion. Same with Black Widow. Actually, it would have been nice is she got the job since she was already on the team.

    Folks have to remember that T'challa is a freaking polymath-super-genius who plays chess with his opponents, with enhanced physical prowess and a master of armed and unarmed combat. He is also a King and a master at stealth and tracking.

    He is perfectly suited for any team, and he could lead also.

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