Gamaran Discussion Thread

[Holy Spirit]

Again, I don't see Shin doing shit to Jinsuke in his current state. Like, is he even conscious?

Even if he isn't, by the time Jinsuke makes his rounds and gets to him..... he would be.

As to how effective Shin would be..........

The problem is, Gamaran characters are a lot more fragile than Bleach characters. In fact, they are more fragile than most shonen characters. That's kinda part of what makes the battles so tense - these guys don't have the damage soak to tank through serious injuries and there's no magical cure for wounds. Shin is going to need weeks if not months to recover from his fight with Banri. Getting cut by a sword messes you up, and basically every fight is to the death.

........... you make a really good point.


Mmmmm....... I concede!

Remember how scary Jinsuke was back when he owned the halberd guy? He's not the kind of guy who just "beats you up," he'll freaking kill you. They probably can't afford to get hit by this man even once.

Oh, he'll definitely try to one-shot the whole lot of them but the thing is.... the enemy is good too. Really good.

I think between the sickness and numbers.... they could wear him down to the point that he could believably fail to kill the main characters.

Actually, I've always expected the traitors to be the main contributing factor to Jinsuke's defeat. He's all about strenght, and even though he's remorseless he still has an honorable streak. So, it kinda makes sense he'd be undone by treachery.

I guess for me.... I just don't see how their treachery can actually take advantage of that honorable streak.


What I mean is...... betrayal is something that takes advantage of trust and I don't see him as somebody that trusts anyone but himself. He believes in "survival of the fittest" and it kind of reflects in his way of doing things. The Muhou school is basically a giant collection of former enemy schools that he now allows to serve him because they're....... strong enough to be useful to his goal. I don't think he sees his followers as allies so much as "Potential enemies that probably won't attack me unless they see it in their best interest, so I'll use them in the mean time.". Sort of like the Shishio/Usui relationship.

Honestly, I'm just looking forward to a serious final battle. Gama vs Jinsuke, full stop.

I mean, it would seriously surprise me if Gama really does straight up kill his old man seeing as that would end his primary motivation, but still, I want to see the strongest dude go all out.

Ah... I see.

Incidentally, I'm rather curious about who the traitor is. I thought it was Kudou but then he went and actually did something and, you know, got a backstory and stuff. So now I'm not so sure anymore.

This manga is really kinda hard to predict. Honestly, I can't tell if Nakamaru is a very clever storyteller, or just has no idea what he's doing.

Zenmaru Ichinose's older brother, Mr. Creepy smiley face.

Come on! Who just randomly similes around a corner like that! He's about to start something Ghost, I can feel it!

Uh oh, we're running out of suuuuuuuuuspeeeeeeeeects.

[Ghost]

Even if he isn't, by the time Jinsuke makes his rounds and gets to him..... he would be.

Honestly, I doubt it. Shin is badass but I don't think he's going to do much more fighting for a while.

I think between the sickness and numbers.... they could wear him down to the point that he could believably fail to kill the main characters.

Yeah, but that's not really a gauntlet, that's a dogpile. I don't think the head honcho antagonist, a guy who has been hyped as the best swordsman in Japan since the start of the manga, is going to go down that way.

I guess for me.... I just don't see how their treachery can actually take advantage of that honorable streak.

What I mean is...... betrayal is something that takes advantage of trust and I don't see him as somebody that trusts anyone but himself.

I admit, that's a good point. Especially now, he's going to be on his guard against pretty much everyone.

Still, that spy seemed pretty confident it was already too late for Jinsuke to do anything about it. That sounds kinda ominous.

Uh oh, we're running out of suuuuuuuuuspeeeeeeeeects.

Fox-Face Ichinose is starting to look like a good candidate, agreed.

Not that I have completely given up on Kudou. Like I said, the mangaka can be really unpredictable.

[Holy Spirit]

Yeah, but that's not really a gauntlet, that's a dogpile. I don't think the head honcho antagonist, a guy who has been hyped as the best swordsman in Japan since the start of the manga, is going to go down that way.

I meant the numbers within the gauntlet..... sorry if I wasn't clear.

Mainly because whoever gets the pleasure of being first in line is going to be up against a fresh Jinsuke, illness notwithstanding..... and I'm not liking the chances of survival.

So if none of the main characters are going to die somebody needs to soak up some of that juice. As it just so happens there are a few high-level and relatively expendable characters skulking around that also want to kill Jinsuke.


I mean.... they'll definitely play an important role in Jinsuke's downfall but I think it's the Ogame school coupled with that illness that will be the main reasons for it.


Aaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of that being said.... it's not all that clear to me just how much better Jinsuke is than the others. Is he slightly stronger than the second strongest? Two times as strong? Three? *Shrug*


It's pretty telling that even with the Ogame school and traitors the author still found it necessary to make him ill on top of it. Then again, he is the "Thousand-Man Slayer" and as you mentioned in a universe like this...... that means a lot.

I admit, that's a good point. Especially now, he's going to be on his guard against pretty much everyone.

Still, that spy seemed pretty confident it was already too late for Jinsuke to do anything about it. That sounds kinda ominous.

True.... then again Jinsuke seemed to believe he could cut through anything in his path. Hard to say whose faith is more justified.... both were confident yet neither really knows the full scope of what the other side is capable of.



Though a spy being a spy.... probably has a better idea of what his enemy can do than vice versa. Ominous indeed.

Fox-Face Ichinose is starting to look like a good candidate, agreed.

Not that I have completely given up on Kudou. Like I said, the mangaka can be really unpredictable.

Yeah... and there's always that ninja guy.

[Holy Spirit]

Hey... Master of Read where are you man?

You ok out there?

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

Iori once again demonstrates why he's the strongest man in the current Ogame school taking out a Muhou officer barehanded.

It'll be a shame to watch him succumb to Jinsuke's might.

The next few chapters should be fun though. We're finally getting to the big showdowns.

[Holy Spirit]

Iori seems like a Too Cool To Live type of character.

Iori once again demonstrates why he's the strongest man in the current Ogame school taking out a Muhou officer barehanded.

It'll be a shame to watch him succumb to Jinsuke's might.

"No one but him(Iori) could win against Jinsuke Kurogane!!"


Dum dum duuuuummm. Not liking his chances.

[Ghost]

Honestly, Iori is kind of a good example of making your protagonist too strong - all his battles are kinda boring because he always outclasses everyone he fights. I keep hoping he'll meet an opponent who is actually a challenge to him, but it doesn't look like we'll get that unless he does take on Jinsuke.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

Honestly, Iori is kind of a good example of making your protagonist too strong - all his battles are kinda boring because he always outclasses everyone he fights. I keep hoping he'll meet an opponent who is actually a challenge to him, but it doesn't look like we'll get that unless he does take on Jinsuke.

I don't see anyone else getting in his way right now unless they have a few secret members we haven't been introduced to, which is entirely possible.

I really want to see Zenmaru's fight though. That's the one I've really been waiting for.

[Damian666]

I think this manga might end soon and that's making me sad

[Holy Spirit]

I had a feeling Zenmaru didn't really want to kill his brother.


Naoyoshi... the only reason Ranmaru was protecting you... was because he was following orders. Don't compare your relationship with him to your relationship with Gama. I mean... "Both of you are irreplaceable friends to me!!"... come on dude. You two were never friends. If I was Gama I would not be pleased at hearing that come out of his mouth.


Enough talk! Finally the main event! Jinsuke vs Iori!!!

[Ghost]

I had a feeling Zenmaru didn't really want to kill his brother.

It's cute in a way, but I feel like I would care more about those two if they actually had some decent backstory.

Naoyoshi... the only reason Ranmaru was protecting you... was because he was following orders. Don't compare your relationship with him to your relationship with Gama. I mean... "Both of you are irreplaceable friends to me!!"... come on dude. You two were never friends. If I was Gama I would not be pleased at hearing that come out of his mouth.

I dunno, that's the nice thing about Naoyoshi - in a manga full of remorseless killers, he's the one guy who seems to really value human life.

And let's be fair, he's spent like a whole year with Ranmaru constantly hanging around him. It's no surprise he's developed a bit of a Stockholm Syndrome for the guy.

Enough talk! Finally the main event! Jinsuke vs Iori!!!

Sickness or no sickness, I'm looking forward to seeing Jinsuke go all out.