CBR: Axel-In-Charge - Dec 23, 2011

[okpanic]

That is hardly the standard being used to determine who gets panel time. Unless u think 30+ so Avengers are all going to get equivalent panel time. I am just saying characters who are leaders and have connections with both franchises should get more focus. Not to mention I here talk about plenty of Avengers getting face time but not much on x-men besides Wolverine, Scott and Hope.

You sell it by promising the core characters of the franchise -- Scott, Wolverine, Storm, Kitty, Colossus, Rogue, Beast, Emma vs. Cap, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Vision, Hank Pym, Wanda (back before Bendis destroyed her), Jan (back before Bendis killed her), Simon (back before Bendis ruined him)...

If you're going to promise the Avengers, they should be the core franchise characters, not johnny-come-latelies who are far more associated with other franchises.

Iron Fist is a johnny-come-lately? Lol, oh man.

I don't think there's any harm in the fact that through 12 whole issues of this event there could be some time set aside to actually give face time and develop break-out characters whose names aren't Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Magneto, Emma Frost, etc. It's almost 2012, not 1985 or whatever time warp you're stuck in, guys.

[Lemurion]

The irony?

One of the biggest issues when Quesada came in was just how much of the back catalogue was not available in trade format. Marvel made a concentrated effort to reprint all the classic stories and reignite the Essential series — just as they began a big push forward.

Today? I went to my local bookseller right before Christmas and there's more Walking Dead then Marvel books. And DC has the two combined, thanks to oversized editions and a wider range of genres. And what they DO have of Marvel tends to be the more recent rather than the classic standards.

Which all brings me to the conclusion that Marvel's biggest problem is simply itself. It's trying repeatedly to present conflicting messages.

Trades can't stick to the old stuff because it's the new stuff that gets them noticed and ties in with the movies.

The app can't get the full support because then it negates the digital subscription service it has, and vice versa.

And the end result of it all is that the books that should be standard have fallen out of print and/or favour. Introduce digital trades, get the old ones together, build a frickin' guide to the ones you should have read — classics, then new — and go from there.

Otherwise, you'll have people looking at the wide variety of trades and skip past the numbered Marvel ones in favour of the simpler-looking Dark Horse, Image and DC ones.

Oh I agree completely.

There's a ton of really good Marvel stuff I would love to buy either digitally or in print - but practically none of it's available. I won't even go into the stupidity of numbering trades and then making sure most of them aren't in print.