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    The decline of the series all followed the alien creature design

    Alien Xenomorph Design
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    Aliens Xenomorph design
    True to the original and therefore AWESOME!!!


    Alien 3 Xenomorph Design
    Added Lips and human like teeth... getting lame.


    Alien Resurrection Xenomorph Design
    Eyes, Nose... total crap design...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jared View Post
    I simply ignore Alien 3, period. Newt and Hicks dying might have been acceptable if the film had done something to earn it, but it didn't. Hell, it even plays out (even if it's not the case) like something thrown in due to last-minute changes. Somehow there was an egg tucked away in a little corner of the Sulaco? How the hell did it get there? Don't say the Queen put it there, because she's huge and she never left the hangar bay.
    That's pretty much what it was. Way back when the second film came out, at the end of the credits, if you listen you can hear an egg open and a facehugger skitter across the floor. That was pretty much going to be the genesis for "Alien 3". In every script draft, there was an egg or two aboard the Sulaco. The eggs were on the inside of the drop ship, where the Queen was hiding. They opened up and two facehuggers popped out. One attached itself to Ripley and the other to the dog/ox on Fury 161.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat001 View Post
    That's pretty much what it was. Way back when the second film came out, at the end of the credits, if you listen you can hear an egg open and a facehugger skitter across the floor. That was pretty much going to be the genesis for "Alien 3". In every script draft, there was an egg or two aboard the Sulaco. The eggs were on the inside of the drop ship, where the Queen was hiding. They opened up and two facehuggers popped out. One attached itself to Ripley and the other to the dog/ox on Fury 161.
    Okay one thing that always bothered me about the eggs on board the Drop ship. How in the world would the Queen have time to lay them? Last time I checked based on every media format (Comics, Games Movies) I've seen the aliens in The Queen needed to have that Maggot looking thing growing out of her before she could lay eggs. Since that thing wasn't around how could she have laid the eggs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treqqor View Post
    Doesn't matter how closely it ties to anything.

    A crap movie is still a crap movie.
    Im with this, first we don't know this will be good, but assuming it is (and since the last big sci fi flick most people saw was Avatar it isn't exactly a hi bar it has to overcome, but even if it is good, it being good and sharing some themes with Ressurection doesn't make Ressurection good, it still sucks but this is movie is good.
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    Who says this shares themes with resurrection ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Comic Book Critic
    Okay one thing that always bothered me about the eggs on board the Drop ship. How in the world would the Queen have time to lay them? Last time I checked based on every media format (Comics, Games Movies) I've seen the aliens in The Queen needed to have that Maggot looking thing growing out of her before she could lay eggs. Since that thing wasn't around how could she have laid the eggs?
    Not to mention that we're supposed to believe that Ripley didn't thoroughly check the dropship and hanger for any more stowaways after what just happened. Because Ripley known as for being one of the biggest idiot heroes in film...

    The egg we see hatch didn't appear to be in the dropship at all, as I recall.

    I could have believed that an already hatched facehugger managed to hide and wait until they went into cryosleep, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jared View Post
    Not to mention that we're supposed to believe that Ripley didn't thoroughly check the dropship and hanger for any more stowaways after what just happened. Because Ripley known as for being one of the biggest idiot heroes in film...

    The egg we see hatch didn't appear to be in the dropship at all, as I recall.

    I could have believed that an already hatched facehugger managed to hide and wait until they went into cryosleep, however.
    I just re watched the opening to Alien 3 and your right the egg wasn't in the Dropship. It was in what appeared to be the Cryosleep chamber or the armory. How the hell could it be there when the queen was never in that part of the ship and to top it all off was simply to big to even fit in the room? Did the writers just get lazy and not even bother to watch the prior films for continuity? I have to say this has to be the biggest plot hole in the film

    Also what you said about and already hatched Facehugger would actually have been a hell of a lot more believable for how the alien got onboard

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    Remember that Burkes main goal was to get a xenomorph back to earth for study. Ripley even states that he was likely going to let one or more of them get impregnated and then put into stasis so that the alien could hatch when they got back to earth. So maybe Burke hid an egg in the sulacco or the drop ship for just that purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Clark View Post
    Remember that Burkes main goal was to get a xenomorph back to earth for study. Ripley even states that he was likely going to let one or more of them get impregnated and then put into stasis so that the alien could hatch when they got back to earth. So maybe Burke hid an egg in the sulacco or the drop ship for just that purpose.
    Except Burke never went back up to the Sulacco at any point after landing and he was dead before the Bishop brought the new dropship down by remote.

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    I'm looking forward to Prometheus. I hear that the movie will explore terraforming and the origins of humankind. Maybe Ridley Scott has remembered how to make good movies.

    Alien 3 was the worst Alien film. It lacked the excitement and cathartic value of the first two. And at least Resurrection was kinda funny.

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    I liked Alien 3, the assembly cut anyway. I liked that Hicks and Newt died, gave it the nihilistic tone the alien movies should have. And showed the utter hopelessness of Ripley's plight.

    Also liked the sub-plot with the prisoner who survived the first attack coming to worship the alien as some kind of god/demon thing.

    Really looking forward to Prometheus. The trailer was awesome. And i like the angle that the "space jockey's" didn't just create the aliens, but also mankind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    I liked Alien 3, the assembly cut anyway. I liked that Hicks and Newt died, gave it the nihilistic tone the alien movies should have.
    Does this mean Ripley should have been killed in the first movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by batGRRRl4ever View Post
    I still believe that some who may be detractors of Alien: Resurrection may re-evaluate it once they see how strongly it's story ties into the overarching themes that will be seen in Prometheus and even can be considered the "unofficial" sequel in terms of thematic concepts.
    How does Resurrection tie into Prometheus' themes... at all?

    Prometheus isn't even about the aliens, it's about the beings that created the aliens and where mankind comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesse_custer View Post
    Does this mean Ripley should have been killed in the first movie?
    Hmmm no. But people should die, including main, likable characters like Hicks and Newt. I thought it worked well, especially with the religious themes of the movie. Ripley's plight is hopeless. The alien nightmare doesn't end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    Hmmm no. But people should die, including main, likable characters like Hicks and Newt. I thought it worked well, especially with the religious themes of the movie. Ripley's plight is hopeless. The alien nightmare doesn't end.
    That theme is pretty lame when one considers the exciting, slambang endings of the first two movies.

    And despite the fact that the movie had religion in it, I couldn't find anything that insightful or spiritual about any of the proceedings.

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