Fantastic Four & FF (News And Speculation)

**marvell2100** · 12-11-2011, 05:00 PM

Hickman is bringing all his plots together now and everything is shaping up nicely. Johnny's return was told in a very good manner and he seems changed a little from his ordeal which is good. I like that Hickman has had Johnny "grow up" some. We see it in flashes with other writers but I think Hickman has made it stick.

I hope he can make both Fantastic Four and FF viable titles. Maybe he has Reed spend more time with the Future Foundation and have the Fantastic Four consist of Sue, Ben, Johnny and Spidey(he does have a brain and it would be cool to see him use it more here). I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. I also like what he's done with the Inhumans and I hope they stick around and keep their new status.

**Iron Maiden** · 12-12-2011, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by marvell2100

Hickman is bringing all his plots together now and everything is shaping up nicely. Johnny's return was told in a very good manner and he seems changed a little from his ordeal which is good. I like that Hickman has had Johnny "grow up" some. We see it in flashes with other writers but I think Hickman has made it stick.

I hope he can make both Fantastic Four and FF viable titles. Maybe he has Reed spend more time with the Future Foundation and have the Fantastic Four consist of Sue, Ben, Johnny and Spidey(he does have a brain and it would be cool to see him use it more here). I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. I also like what he's done with the Inhumans and I hope they stick around and keep their new status.

I like that Hickman is having a reunion of sorts of a lot of neglected supporting characters during his run. He's made Nathaniel Richards a more formidable character by featuring him in his Fantastic Four and SHIELD. I was really glad to see him bring back Kristoff, something I had the good luck to discuss with him when I got to talk to him for a bit at the first C2 E2 in 2010. We are also supposed to be seeing the return of Wyatt Wingfoot at one point, a character that has just about dropped off the map since Byrne had him dating She Hulk during his FF run.

**Ravin' Ray** · 12-12-2011, 06:02 AM

Wyatt Wingfoot, Willie Lumpkin, these are characters I mentioned for an iFanboy podcast way back and Hickman said Lumpkin will return following Franklin's birthday. We have yet to know who the "top-secret" members of the Future Foundation are, unless they're a secret to the readers as well. I wonder if Thundra will show up given that she, Lumpkin, the Impossible Man, and H.E.R.B.I.E are on that anniversary cover for FF #12, and the latter three have already appeared in Hickman's run. If Scott Lang is truly back from the dead, the other former FF members and supporting characters who are not committed to other teams ought to be back as well (Namorita, Sharon Ventura, even Frances Hyatt/Frankie Raye and Agatha Harkness and dare I say it, the reformed Salem Seven).

**UKFan** · 12-12-2011, 06:12 AM

I half want to see what Hickam does with the two FFs, but I also want him to save the Avengers.

Decisions, decisions.

And yes, I'm aware some think Avengers doesn't need saving.

**CaptainMarvell** · 12-12-2011, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by UKFan

I half want to see what Hickam does with the two FFs, but I also want him to save the Avengers.

Decisions, decisions.

And yes, I'm aware some think Avengers doesn't need saving.

Well Hickman is doing GREAT with the Ultimates, so even if they don't need "saving", I bet he could make them better.

**Seguun** · 12-12-2011, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by CaptainMarvell

Well Hickman is doing GREAT with the Ultimates, so even if they don't need "saving", I bet he could make them better.

Financially yeah no saving. New Number Ones due to the movie or the end of Aveners vs X-men should boost those. creative wise is a debate.

**Mr MajestiK** · 05-13-2012, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by UKFan

I half want to see what Hickam does with the two FFs, but I also want him to save the Avengers.

Decisions, decisions.

And yes, I'm aware some think Avengers doesn't need saving.

Hickman on the Avengers would be excellent.

**dupersuper** · 05-16-2012, 10:49 PM

Did any one read Fantastic Four 605.1 yet?

**OberonOsiris** · 12-12-2011, 07:10 AM

I like the choices of Ms Marvel and Namorita. I thought N was dead though. Can you update me on that. I always liked Agatha too, and she would make a good teacher for some of the kids, especially Franklin, as Witchcraft is about mastering your will power. I wonder if Franklin will be a big part of the "It's Coming" story line?

-Oberon

**CHOX** · 12-12-2011, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by OberonOsiris

I like the choices of Ms Marvel and Namorita. I thought N was dead though. Can you update me on that. I always liked Agatha too, and she would make a good teacher for some of the kids, especially Franklin, as Witchcraft is about mastering your will power. I wonder if Franklin will be a big part of the "It's Coming" story line?

-Oberon

I'd love to see Ms. Marvel in some capacity with the Future Foundation...hell, we have too many Avengers teams as it is. I feel it makes the whole concept of a super team less special. Bring one or two other Avengers over to the Future Foundation.

**Seguun** · 12-12-2011, 08:47 AM

I don't see too many Avenger Teams but I could use a dedicated Cosmic Team focused on protecting Earth.

**Runguy** · 12-12-2011, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray

Wyatt Wingfoot, Willie Lumpkin, these are characters I mentioned for an iFanboy podcast way back and Hickman said Lumpkin will return following Franklin's birthday. We have yet to know who the "top-secret" members of the Future Foundation are, unless they're a secret to the readers as well. I wonder if Thundra will show up given that she, Lumpkin, the Impossible Man, and H.E.R.B.I.E are on that anniversary cover for FF #12, and the latter three have already appeared in Hickman's run. If Scott Lang is truly back from the dead, the other former FF members and supporting characters who are not committed to other teams ought to be back as well (Namorita, Sharon Ventura, even Frances Hyatt/Frankie Raye and Agatha Harkness and dare I say it, the reformed Salem Seven).

What have I missed , what "secret foundation members" ?

**Frank** · 12-17-2011, 12:08 PM

I'm not reading a lot of Marvel currently so i'm confused about it, after the death of Johnny Storm, I thought the FF were changed to the Futur Foundation. Recently I saw in Previews that it was called Fantastic Four again and Johnny was back. Is the title now called Fantastic Four for good and if so why has the new concept being discarded so quickly? Were the sales that low?

**Wolf_Leader** · 12-17-2011, 12:12 PM

They are publishing the new Fantastic Four series as well as the current FF ongoing, so the Future Foundation concept will continue to be the focus of the latter title.

**Chaos_Alfa** · 12-17-2011, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Frank

I'm not reading a lot of Marvel currently so i'm confused about it, after the death of Johnny Storm, I thought the FF were changed to the Futur Foundation. Recently I saw in Previews that it was called Fantastic Four again and Johnny was back. Is the title now called Fantastic Four for good and if so why has the new concept being discarded so quickly? Were the sales that low?

The Future Foundation still exist.

There are just two comics:
- FF
- Fantastic Four