Creative changes? Relaunch? What's next for the the Avengers?

[XPac]

It still sems like alot of stuff to try to cram into one year. HAMMER, Avengers vs X-Men, Drumms Revenge, potential Ultron War and even Steve's vision, occurring right before the Ultron Wars. Not to say that all of these will occur but that's still quite a few major event's. Anyone think that there's a posibility that someone else would take over these plot lines? If Fraction were to take over, I could see him doing it.

Yeah, I do wonder of some of this stuff might be saved for later. Post Bendis.

Given there are 2 Avengers books and some of this stuff can come out in seperate minis it's possible to jam it all in there in 2012. But on paper at least it sounds like a lot.

[BFF]

There's nothing Waid can't do. He wrote Fantastic Four. He wrote Flash that had gazillion speedsters for supporing cast. He wrote Kingdom Come and he wrote JLA.

I would love this. I really enjoyed Waid's JLA and FF. Marvel has many young writers that I think would do a good job with Avengers. With Waid, I know he would do great. He has the experience and the confidence -- man, does he have confidence -- to pull it off.

[Getoffmylawn]

I would love to see them keep the three team format. I would only have them change NA and see them relaunch west cost. Each book would have it' own feel. The big guys hand out in NY and LA. If they still had them under shield that's fine. A two cost team to me would better show this. Then you would have secret for the wet works stuff. Each book to have a different feel and writer.
Avengers -Hickmen
W.C. -Slots
Secret -Brubaker

I would also love to see icons stay where they should put wolverine and thing back where they belong.

[Telos]

Wasn't Steve's vision Fear Itself?

[Linnus]

Wasn't Steve's vision Fear Itself?

No. Totally Different. Steve's was an actually Alien Invasion. I suppose it could be Ultron War Related.

[Telos]

No. Totally Different. Steve's was an actually Alien Invasion. I suppose it could be Ultron War Related.

Are you sure? The vision included:

- Bucky and Thor dying
- Steve wielding Mjolnir
- Giant robots
- All the heroes getting wiped out by an unknown figure (The Serpent?)

If the vision wasn't Fear Itself, it's an enormous coincidence.

[Linnus]

Are you sure? The vision included:

- Bucky and Thor dying
- Steve wielding Mjolnir
- Giant robots
- All the heroes getting wiped out by an unknown figure (The Serpent?)

If the vision wasn't Fear Itself, it's an enormous coincidence.

Maybe I am not quite remembering but the robots were not the same at all. The FI ones were Mechs not that large. I remember pretty giant robots in the vision.

[Telos]

Maybe I am not quite remembering but the robots were not the same at all. The FI ones were Mechs not that large. I remember pretty giant robots in the vision.

Well, the Mechas weren't depicted consistently in the Fear Itself tie-ins. I'm guessing Steve just saw them differently because it was a dream and blah blah blah. I'm pretty sure the vision was intended to reflect Fear Itself, but because FI was in the early planning stages a design for the Mechas had not been given to Bryan Hitch.

[Linnus]

Well, the Mechas weren't depicted consistently in the Fear Itself tie-ins. I'm guessing Steve just saw them differently because it was a dream and blah blah blah. I'm pretty sure the vision was intended to reflect Fear Itself, but because FI was in the early planning stages a design for the Mechas had not been given to Bryan Hitch.

Ah okay. I suppose that might work.

[Telos]

It still sems like alot of stuff to try to cram into one year. HAMMER, Avengers vs X-Men, Drumms Revenge, potential Ultron War and even Steve's vision, occurring right before the Ultron Wars. Not to say that all of these will occur but that's still quite a few major event's. Anyone think that there's a posibility that someone else would take over these plot lines? If Fraction were to take over, I could see him doing it.

I think it's doable.

HAMMER will probably take 6 issues each of New Avengers and Avengers.

After that, I'm going to assume there are maybe 2 or 3 issues of tie-ins to Avengers vs X-Men, with the main event happening in the miniseries.

To cap off the runs, I think Ultron War and Drumm of Revenge will take 6 issues each of Avengers and New Avengers, respectively.

Then the new writer takes over at the start of 2013.

Ah okay. I suppose that might work.

Dream or vision sequences in fiction often don't show the actual event in full or accurate detail. I haven't read Captain America: Reborn myself, so I'm going purely off comments on CBR, but from what I understand it is sort of open to interpretation. Anybody feel like giving Reborn another read in the wake of Fear Itself?

[Taiso]

If this is indeed Bendis final year they probably want to give him as much time as possible to finish up his run rather than having the end of it hijacked by the upcoming event.

It would be karmic justice if his endgame were messed up by a crossover event.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

Then the new writer takes over at the start of 2013.

Seeing as there are about three more 5 week months after February, I wouldn't be surprised if he could wrap things up by November, if not October.

[Linnus]

Seeing as there are about three more 5 week months after February, I wouldn't be surprised if he could wrap things up by November, if not October.

Agreed. I expect late in the Year.

[shifty3K]

Man it's gonna be weird. I've been reading the Avengers since the early 90's, so I've been through some bad runs. I'm excited at just the prospect of something new, but there are plenty of readers who started the book with Bendis. Will they stick around afterward?

I doubt the succeeding team will be permanent. An arc or two, depending on sales, and then Marvel will announce some big name late in '13.

I hope there isn't another renumbering and I hope Luke Cage stays on the team.

[marvell2100]

I think it's doable.

HAMMER will probably take 6 issues each of New Avengers and Avengers.

After that, I'm going to assume there are maybe 2 or 3 issues of tie-ins to Avengers vs X-Men, with the main event happening in the miniseries.

To cap off the runs, I think Ultron War and Drumm of Revenge will take 6 issues each of Avengers and New Avengers, respectively.

Then the new writer takes over at the start of 2013.



Dream or vision sequences in fiction often don't show the actual event in full or accurate detail. I haven't read Captain America: Reborn myself, so I'm going purely off comments on CBR, but from what I understand it is sort of open to interpretation. Anybody feel like giving Reborn another read in the wake of Fear Itself?

If AvX begins in April and ends in Sept, there's very little time to get the Ultron Wars in before the end of 2012. That's not including a #0, Alpha or Oemga issuefor AvX if they throw one in. That's just too narrow of a window assuming the Ultron Wars will be more than 3-4 issues which it will more than likely be.