Creative changes? Relaunch? What's next for the the Avengers?

[Moose967]

I can respect that. Though it might seem dated unless they can make them updated in looks.

Well in that case Alan Davis is perfect. His work on Cap has been amazing. I love the old school feel. Though many will disagree with me, the golden age of comics from my childhood was from 1989 through 1996, right before Heroes Reborn. I love the vibe I get from Davis' work. Totally reminds me of that era. The costumes for Tony, Clint, and Wanda were awesome in my opinion.

[Songbird/Diamondback]

Well in that case Alan Davis is perfect. His work on Cap has been amazing. I love the old school feel. Though many will disagree with me, the golden age of comics from my childhood was from 1989 through 1996, right before Heroes Reborn. I love the vibe I get from Davis' work. Totally reminds me of that era.

Oh, I know, but usually the different eras usually are best to stay in their eras. The characters can evolve, but forcing the clock back usually doesn't end well.
Also, I think Vision is in DESPERATE need of an update. No offense to his fans, but he does look really dated.

[dreyga2000]

How about them being on one team only? Let other characters have a chance!

I never really brought into the rationale that one characters inclusion on the roster some how equaled another characters exclusion... The Avengers roster changes every other arc and there is no set number on how many people are on the team at any one time...


Geoff Johns had twelve plus active members on his Avengers line-up... Even then the roster changed frequently...Busiek had every Avenger ever on the line-up for over a year...

I prefer the concept of a fluid roster with some regulars... I just hope Pete and Logan become regulars as opposed Triathlon or Silverclaw... I like having single title where all of Marvel's premier heroes come together. I feel like I get more bang for my buck...

Oh please no...

It's not like they haven't already got a solo title and two (three in Wolverine's case) team appearances each.

Supply and demand go hand in hand....

[Zen-aku]

Jason Aron or Greg Pak for Writing Duties please, maybe..dare i say it PAD would work.

Keep Spider-man on the team, Wolverine it depends on what happens During AVX and how bad that split is, but i am all for keeping him.

[Songbird/Diamondback]

I never really brought into the rationale that one characters inclusion on the roster some how equaled another characters exclusion... The Avengers roster changes every other arc and there is no set number on how many people are on the team at any one time...


Geoff Johns had twelve plus active members on his Avengers line-up... Even then the roster changed frequently...Busiek had every Avenger ever on the line-up for over a year...

I prefer the concept of a fluid roster with some regulars... I just hope Pete and Logan become regulars as opposed Triathlon or Silverclaw... I like having single title where all of Marvel's premier heroes come together. I feel like I get more bang for my buck...

Supply and demand go hand in hand....

They can be on, but being on both the Avengers and New Avengers is taking up spots for other members for spots they don't need because they already have the screentime on the other team.

[jackolover]

They can be on, but being on both the Avengers and New Avengers is taking up spots for other members for spots they don't need because they already have the screentime on the other team.

Are we sure New Avengers will survive after Bendis? I think we will revert back to classical writing with less decompression, and more super hero moments, than deep reflection anymore. Busiek would be a good choice as long as he keeps his team to about 5 to 7 members, and gets a good artist like Deodato, or JR jr with White on colours. Busiek can do good dark universe Avengers. There'll be more visits from villains than Bendis has done, all unexplained and fleeting. Osborn will disappear back into the Spider Books. The Hood will never reappear again. The heroes will laugh about the Civil War and Dark Reign, like it was a bad dream that the civilians are embarrassed about. The Skrulls will be the tired joke they have always been, and the Sentry will have never existed.

[Telos]

Are we sure New Avengers will survive after Bendis? I think we will revert back to classical writing with less decompression, and more super hero moments, than deep reflection anymore. Busiek would be a good choice as long as he keeps his team to about 5 to 7 members, and gets a good artist like Deodato, or JR jr with White on colours. Busiek can do good dark universe Avengers.

Kurt Busiek has made it pretty clear lately that he's not interested in writing for Marvel or DC right now, he'd prefer to do independent work. It's a shame, but there are plenty of other great writers who could take over instead.

My preferences would be Jeff Parker, Kieron Gillen, Dan Slott, Jonathan Hickman, Mark Waid or Jason Aaron. Of those, I think only Waid and Aaron are likely options.

There'll be more visits from villains than Bendis has done, all unexplained and fleeting. Osborn will disappear back into the Spider Books. The Hood will never reappear again. The heroes will laugh about the Civil War and Dark Reign, like it was a bad dream that the civilians are embarrassed about. The Skrulls will be the tired joke they have always been, and the Sentry will have never existed.

I would love for all of this to happen.

[Moriarty]

There'll be more visits from villains than Bendis has done, all unexplained and fleeting. Osborn will disappear back into the Spider Books. The Hood will never reappear again. The heroes will laugh about the Civil War and Dark Reign, like it was a bad dream that the civilians are embarrassed about. The Skrulls will be the tired joke they have always been, and the Sentry will have never existed.

ah, if only this would happen.

not sure about writer, but for artist i'd love for Deodato to stay on.

[jackolover]

Kurt Busiek has made it pretty clear lately that he's not interested in writing for Marvel or DC right now, he'd prefer to do independent work. It's a shame, but there are plenty of other great writers who could take over instead.

My preferences would be Jeff Parker, Kieron Gillen, Dan Slott, Jonathan Hickman, Mark Waid or Jason Aaron. Of those, I think only Waid and Aaron are likely options.

My preference in that list is Kieron Gillen. He is the closest to Busiek I can think of.

I would love for all of this to happen.

Ugh!. But sadly, I think your wishes will come true.

[Moose967]

ah, if only this would happen.

not sure about writer, but for artist i'd love for Deodato to stay on.

I like Deodato, but like Captain America before the recent relaunch I think his art is a little to dark and shadowy for what Avengers needs to be, at least in my opinion. My personal preference is for Waid and perhaps the artist that worked with him on Captain America: Man Out Of Time. I think his name was Molina. Of course as I said earlier Davis is killing it over on Captain America right now.

As far as Civil War and the like being a bad dream, I think that is why I would be okay with a slight reality changing event courtesy of the Phoenix. Lets be honest, nobody really feels the effects of the superhuman civil war at the moment anyway. Secret Invasions only last implication was that Captain Marvel is still dead, Mockingbird was never dead and Wasp is off in some other dimension/dead. Oh wait I almost forgot Vernanke/Spider-Woman was far more interesting than the real deal. We got that out of the whole skrull thing too. Osborn obviously won't return to power and he made for such a crappy villain anyway.

With the events that are unfolding with Wanda, it would appear House of M is also being undone. We have new mutants again, old mutants getting repowered, and Hawkeye is...well Hawkeye again (sort of).

Long story short, most of the the events that were engineered under the current writing regime no longer matter except to the pages of history and to those of us that enjoyed them. That being what it is sets the stage for some kind of reset. Maybe even going back and stopping wanda in the first place from A.) Killing the Avengers and B.) Killing the X-Men. I could be wrong of course but the writing is on the wall.

Hope + Wanda + Phoenix/Jean Grey = The Reset.

The beauty is that Bucky can still be alive. Osborn could have still wrangled his way into government power in a Gyrich style position and attacked Asgard in Oklahoma leading a Siege type senario, which would make for a better story. Avengers choose between the government or Asgard/Thor. But alas if that were to happen it would have already happened in the past and only briefly mentioned.

The point being, if Marvel wanted to go back to a "classic" style Avengers or X-Men squad here is their chance. And seeing as how the Big 2 imitate each other I can see it happening. Maybe even Songbird joins the Avengers from day 1 and can be to the classic line up what Cyborg is to the classic JL line up.

[BartonisHawkeye88]

I'll still hold out for Songbird joining!

Amen! Avengers Forever teased us so long ago. I want this to happen, dammit!

[Nomads1]

Jason Aron or Greg Pak for Writing Duties please, maybe..dare i say it PAD would work.

We don't usually agree on much, But I'd be all for that. As much as I'd like to see what he'd do, don't think it'd happen though. PAD is no longer a "big" enough name at Marvel to get the top gig.

Peace

[Nomads1]

I agree with Jackolover, I don't think New Avengers will survive post Bendis (But seriously, deep reflections???). Of course, our expectations and reactions to this are completely different. However, some of Bendis' additions will remain attached to the Avengers mythos. Luke Cage's place in the team can no longer be denied (though, hopefully, in some other writers hands, he can go back to being an interesting character. I want Power Man back). Spider-Man will probably drop by more often, even if (depending on the writer) he no longer becomes an active member. Maybe DD will have a similar deal. Wolverine, I think, will split with the team on bad terms, depending on the state of mutants relations after AvsX. Storm, being more civil, may actually remain around to try and patch things up. Having incorporated all the teams back in one, Marvel will find another way to keep the "franchise" going. Academy is a no brainer. Secret may actually become a secret team, operating without official sanction of the team. Assemble may become a book that showcases out of continuity tales with a rotating cast of creators and characters, picked from different stages of the team history, and so on... Maybe Avengers will be sold twice a month, a la Amazing Spider-Man, to increase it's presence on the shelves. The team will probably go to a more traditional setting and vibe, however, I don't think Marvel intends to lose many of the fans that came aboard with Bendis, and who still like the way he does things, so there may still be some tweaks to that traditional setting and vibe. The writer's choice will tell how much they want things to remain the same, and how much they want to go foward (even if that means going back a bit).
Waid is probably my favorite pick (who actually has a chance of getting the job, that is). However, we all know that Fraction, Loebs and Hickman are also strong names on the run. Maybe even Aaron. Most of these choices desplease me at first, but, as I did with Bendis, I'd be willing to give them a shot to wow me. And, maybe Marvel has learned its lesson and won't stick the franchise with the same writer for eight long years.

Peace

[Specimen 297]

Here's a thought...

Maybe Secret Avengers (with Remender) will be relaunched as just Avengers when Bendis leaves.

Stranger things have happened.

I can see New Avengers getting the chop when Bendis leaves but another Avengers title taking its place.

As for writers: Waid or Yost.

Hickman and Aaron have their fingers in a lot of other pies, I don't particularly want either on Avengers because it will probably just lead to another "Bendis" with one writer effectively dictating Marvel because he writes most of their main books.

[Telos]

Waid is probably my favorite pick (who actually has a chance of getting the job, that is). However, we all know that Fraction, Loeb and Hickman are also strong names on the run. Maybe even Aaron. Most of these choices displease me at first, but, as I did with Bendis, I'd be willing to give them a shot to wow me. And, maybe Marvel has learned its lesson and won't stick the franchise with the same writer for eight long years.

Really? What worries you about Aaron and Hickman?