BRITAIN PREVAILS - Captain Britain & MI13 Appreciation PART II

[The Sword Is Drawn]

And Sword had a theory that we've seen Peter Hunter since. In the Rudiments of Wisdom series we see a bloke being dragged away by guards in the Vault prison (under Shoreditch if memory serves) and he's screaming that he's (a/the?) Pendragon......could that be him?

The physical age (At least in appearance), hair colour, and his protests that he was a 'Knight of Pendragon' makes it plausible. Who knows?

[Willow616]

Thanks. That sounds utterly terrible, I was hoping for some kind of cool storyline reason to change the guy's whole concept but it was just that they needed a team strongman & thought hey UJ's got some name value & no powers why not him?

That's a shame, from the little bits I saw of the first Knights of Pendragon series it seemed like a really cool idea, maybe I was just lucky to only see scattered bits

The original series is genius and well worth your time if you can find the issues or the first Panini trade (where's the second one Panini??) but the relaunched more 'superhero' second series was a huge disappointment to me.

Possibly the worst part of this is that these costume redesigns were done by Alan Davis.

I know.........that always makes me a little sad but I suppose even the greatest talent has their slip ups....and we don't know how much editorial pressure there was.......it could be that Davis was just trying to polish a turd?

The physical age (At least in appearance), hair colour, and his protests that he was a 'Knight of Pendragon' makes it plausible. Who knows?

It would make for a very interesting story......and it also seems like too much of a panel in the Wisdom limited for it not to mean anything.......

[Hindsight lad]

We need some night raven reprints.

While I was never really a fan of the Night Raven stories that I've read, apparently the text stories that Alan Moore wrote about him were superb. I'd love to get a chance to read them some day.

I think the main problem with reprinting Night Raven (other than a possible lack of demand) is slogging through the various and sundry magazines where his stories were printed. Judging by the Marvel Appendix, he popped up in a lot of Conan and other reprint titles it might not be easy to gain access to.

You've never mentioned that before.

Jeez! You love telling people you know Steve Parkhouse. It's your claim to fame. Well I met Rod Hull and Emu when I was younger. Beat that!

I had my picture taken with Mark Waid. And I not only met Joe Kelly (writer of Deadpool, Superman, Spider-Man, etc.), he drew me a sketch of Deadpool. For free!

Hindsight lad

[Blind pugh]

The original series is genius and well worth your time if you can find the issues or the first Panini trade (where's the second one Panini??) but the relaunched more 'superhero' second series was a huge disappointment to me.

The trade's on Amazon so I might make it a Christmas present to myself.

[Panic]

While I was never really a fan of the Night Raven stories that I've read, apparently the text stories that Alan Moore wrote about him were superb. I'd love to get a chance to read them some day.

They are excellent. These are links to Alan Moore's Night Raven text stories:

The Cure
White Hopes, Red Nightmares
Sadie's Story
The Anaesthetic Wearing Off...
The Snow Queen

These all come from the website 4 Color Heroes

You will need something like Comic Book Reader to read them.

[Loki]

I think the main problem with reprinting Night Raven (other than a possible lack of demand) is slogging through the various and sundry magazines where his stories were printed. Judging by the Marvel Appendix, he popped up in a lot of Conan and other reprint titles it might not be easy to gain access to.

That's not a problem. Marvel has access to them if they were ever to decide to reprint them.

[Willow616]

The trade's on Amazon so I might make it a Christmas present to myself.

The trade collects the first half of the first series......I'm really not sure if/when they'll ever collect the rest. But it's fantastic......any team that includes Dai Thomas, Captain Britain, Union Jack, Black Panther and Iron Man can't be half bad can it?

[highwayguy]

Well, there is no turning back now. I just bought Knights of Pendragon Vol.2 #1-15 for £10. Union Jack's appearance will annoy me but hopefully I'll enjoy it.

Next up on the list... Incomplete Death's Head and the Death's Head and Captain Britain graphic novels.

[Willow616]

Next up on the list... Incomplete Death's Head and the Death's Head and Captain Britain graphic novels.

Incomplete was good for those that hadn't read the original Death's Head series (which was amazing....and collected by Panini into two brilliant volumes) and the framing sequences were well handled. If your a fan of Doctor Who then get ready for some lovely Marvel/BBC continuity intertwining.

If after that you need full completion of the DH stuff after reading that then Titan reprinted all the Transformers strips in which DH appeared originally in the volumes Fallen Angel and Legacy of Unicron.

If your aiming for the CB graphic novels then getting the two hardcovers of the pre-Moore/Davis stuff is the best bet....and then the omnibus if you haven't already. Frikking. Awesome.

[Gryphon]

Possibly the worst part of this is that these costume redesigns were done by Alan Davis.

You've got to be kidding me.

[highwayguy]

Incomplete was good for those that hadn't read the original Death's Head series (which was amazing....and collected by Panini into two brilliant volumes) and the framing sequences were well handled. If your a fan of Doctor Who then get ready for some lovely Marvel/BBC continuity intertwining.

If after that you need full completion of the DH stuff after reading that then Titan reprinted all the Transformers strips in which DH appeared originally in the volumes Fallen Angel and Legacy of Unicron.

If your aiming for the CB graphic novels then getting the two hardcovers of the pre-Moore/Davis stuff is the best bet....and then the omnibus if you haven't already. Frikking. Awesome.

Thanks, Willow.

[Willow616]

You've got to be kidding me.

No mate......I wish it wasn't true.....if there was an icon of a smiley face crying it would go here -

[Vic Vega]

Breeze, Adam and Albion left Earth-616 to help rebuild the devastated Earth-313, a world their actions had inadvertently helped destroy. Albion returned later to 616, but we don't know if Breeze and Adam are still there or if they have returned. Grace was last seen still manning the Knights' base, the Green Chapel, on Otherworld. Union Jack, I assume you already know.

It would be great to see the "core four" of Crown, Albion, Breeze and Grace back in action on 616.

You have to figure that the M.I.13 core group can't be Great Britain's only line of metahuman defense.

[Willow616]

It would be great to see the "core four" of Crown, Albion, Breeze and Grace back in action on 616.

You have to figure that the M.I.13 core group can't be Great Britain's only line of metahuman defense.

True...given how many superheroes have been active in Marvel Britain over the years (Genetix, Gene Dogs) or comprised of Marvel UK characters (Dark Guard).

[The Sword Is Drawn]

They are excellent. These are links to Alan Moore's Night Raven text stories:

The Cure
White Hopes, Red Nightmares
Sadie's Story
The Anaesthetic Wearing Off...
The Snow Queen

These all come from the website 4 Color Heroes

You will need something like Comic Book Reader to read them.

You beat me to it! They're good stuff. We so need to see Night Raven again someday.

You've got to be kidding me.

If only. How much creative input he had in the revamp is questionable, but he did design those costumes.

It would be great to see the "core four" of Crown, Albion, Breeze and Grace back in action on 616.

You have to figure that the M.I.13 core group can't be Great Britain's only line of metahuman defense.

The whole Knights of Pendragon concept is a really strong oe to me. And one which need not be limited purely to Britain. There's no reason why it cannot cover the whole globe. The opriginal series did. As well as including characters like Iron Man, Dane and Black Panther.

It's actually probably an easier sell than MI13.