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    Great White North Brian from Canada's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maidman View Post
    Have to say that Marvels Ultimate universe beats the bejesus out of anything from the NuDCU! Dead is dead in the ultimate universe and the stories matter.

    Thats the way you reboot damnit, create a new universe and leave the old one alone.
    You're delusional. Ultimate may have been created as a reboot, but it lost sight of that a year down the road thanks to the really, really, really poor writing control on the X-Men. X-Men upped the ante to a point that the only way to deal with it was a mass slaughter that got misinterpreted by Quesada et al in editorial as the sign that Ultimate should be about pushing the limits instead.

    And it DID affect the old universe. Half the plotlines and costume changes seem to be tried by the Ultimate first, not to mention the invention of the Marvel Zombies franchise with crossed over (and a crossover with Max's Squadron Supreme).

    Honest to God, DC is like the dog that keeps chasing his tail……. they just have no clue as to what the hell they are doing!
    And this is where your response falls off the rails.

    DC's relaunch gets rid of the need to do Marvel-style big events in favour of stronger development for their individual books… and it's working. I don't think you'll find many who say that their DC pulls have dropped — many are saying that they've increased.

    DC's relaunch also rebuilds the brand as one of valuable characters other than just Batman and Superman. There's more buzz about previous B-level books than ever before, and the line is far wider in genre and style than Marvel's got at the moment.

    Sure, this is the second DC relaunch (as opposed to Marvel's 2nd/3rd/4th new universe), but the first time was done to simplify and be more like their competition — this time, there's still a push for stronger stories, but it's more of a push towards reaffirming how the stories should be rather than the universe.

    Personally, after reading books like Wonder Woman, Demon Knights, All-Star Western, Aquaman, Justice League Dark, Teen Titans/Superboy and Batwoman, I'm glad they did: these are books that deserve to be noticed.

    Especially when their "marvellous" competition is too busy slapping Avengers, X or Ultimate on any book they sell to make it part of the latest crossover event.

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    Here's my pull list for January (I've to pre-order 2 months before because of the smallness of my LCS in Québec city) So It's exactly a response to the 3rd issue of the titles I was getting since september.

    1- Batman
    2- Justice league Dark
    3- Batwoman
    4- Swamp thing
    5- Animal man
    6- Action Comics
    7- Batman and Robin
    8- Legion of super-heroes
    9- Demon Knights
    10- Justice league

    + Fables

    (legion was add for the first time this month)

    What I've dropped so far:

    11- Frankenstein
    12-Green Lantern
    13- Batgirl
    14- Nightwing
    15- Stormwatch (the worst by far)

    And what I've dropped was'nt because of quality but because of my student budget. I'm now a DC fan.
    Pull list for March 2012:

    JUSTICE LEAGUE, ACTION COMICS, BATMAN, BATMAN AND ROBIN, BATWOMAN, SWAMP THING, JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK, ANIMAL MAN, DEMON KNIGHTS, LEGION OF SUPER HEROES, FAIREST, FABLES

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