NBA 2011-12 Season Thread

[jdwrocks]

Interseed to see if Wolves make a PG deal. My thoughts are dont do it. Playoff are sweet but if they get u nowhere what the point???

[Cavemold]

Apparantly Lakers turned down a Rondo for Gasol deal.

I'm also reading that Howard wants Brooklyn no matter what.

...What do the Celts have against Rondo, anyway?

Glad we didnt accept that, I don't know lol. Bynum went off tonight ,great road win.

[kalorama]

I heard about that Howard bit this morning on Collin Cowherd radio show when driving to work. Bs or not, Orlando must be desperate.

That's not news. Orlando GM Otis Smith has been sleeping in a pool of his own flop sweat for a while now.

Anyways, Monte Ellis, Kwame, and Udoh to Bucks for Bogut and Stephen Jackson.

That's more like a deck chair rearrangement. Two teams swapping overvalued contracts attached to disappointing players hoping that a change of scenery lights a spark under someone. Bogut would be a nice addition to the Warriors if he didn't spend the majority of his time recovering from his last injury/getting ready for his next injury. Putting Stephen Jackson in the locker room of a young lottery team is like tossing a ticking time bomb through the door. Can't wait to see the on-court wrestling matches between Jennings and Ellis for the ball.

[Cavemold]

Dwight apprently wants to stay for the year. They just beat the heat in OT.I think the bucks will win the 8th seed with this trade. Monta playing defense will be first.


Can't believe KD couldnt finsh the rockets.

[Aubergine~!]

Anyways, Monte Ellis, Kwame, and Udoh to Bucks for Bogut and Stephen Jackson.

Strange deal. Probably salary cap motivated, as Bogut and Jackson are both injured, Bogut being out for the entire season.

Ellis will be big for the Bucks, and eliminates the hassle of having Curry and Monta in backcourt. He'll have to coexist with Jennings, which should be entertaining.

Interseed to see if Wolves make a PG deal. My thoughts are dont do it. Playoff are sweet but if they get u nowhere what the point???

Don't they have Barea and Ridnour? Think that should be enough at the PG spot, and giving something worthwhile up to get a good PG when your franchise PG is coming back next season would be crazy.

I do think they need to trade Beasley though, as much for his sake as the team's.

[kalorama]

Don't they have Barea and Ridnour? Think that should be enough at the PG spot, and giving something worthwhile up to get a good PG when your franchise PG is coming back next season would be crazy.

Their problem isn't just PG; it's also SG. Barea's been in and out of the lineup (mostly out) all season with injury, and hasn't necessarily been playing that well when he was in; and before Rubio went down, Ridnour was actually starting at the SG spot as well as backing up PG. With Rubio out, that means Ridnour becomes the starting PG and leaves them without much they can count on at SG. They've got bodies (Wes Johnson, Wayne Ellington, Malcolm Lee), but none of them have proven to be particularly impressive or reliable at the NBA level.

[Aubergine~!]

Their problem isn't just PG; it's also SG. Barea's been in and out of the lineup (mostly out) all season with injury, and hasn't necessarily been playing that well when he was in; and before Rubio went down, Ridnour was actually starting at the SG spot as well as backing up PG. With Rubio out, that means Ridnour becomes the starting PG and leaves them without much they can count on at SG. They've got bodies (Wes Johnson, Wayne Ellington, Malcolm Lee), but none of them have proven to be particularly impressive or reliable at the NBA level.

Yeah, I was talking more in regards to doing a knee jerk trade to get a replacement in for Rubio. I do think the best thing they can do now is to trade Beasley for a decent SG prospect. Rubio, Love, and Pekovic are going to be their cornerstones, and they need to build around those three for the future.

Bit early to give up on Johnson, but he's certainly been disappointing so far.

Also, they don't have a 1st rounder in the next draft, right? Think it's the one that went to the Hornets in the Chris Paul deal?

[kalorama]

Yeah, I was talking more in regards to doing a knee jerk trade to get a replacement in for Rubio. I do think the best thing they can do now is to trade Beasley for a decent SG prospect. Rubio, Love, and Pekovic are going to be their cornerstones, and they need to build around those three for the future.

Oh, I know what you meant. I was just pointing out that even if they don't need to do a deal to replace Rubio per se, Rubio's absence creates holes at other spots that they do need to address if they want to make a playoff run. So either way, Rubio going down puts them in a position where they have to decide if they want to trade assets for possible short-term gain.

Bit early to give up on Johnson, but he's certainly been disappointing so far.

Also, they don't have a 1st rounder in the next draft, right? Think it's the one that went to the Hornets in the Chris Paul deal?

Yep.

[Hiromi]

Mike D'Antoni's resigned as Knicks coach.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...antoni-resigns

[Cavemold]

Nike D'Antoni's resigned as Knicks coach.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...antoni-resigns

I smell a mob connection ! Eh, so close to the playoffs yet so far away. Go Isaiah Thomas! Rofl. Man do the nuggets look like genius. It was nice seeing the Lin saga ,but this will end of it probably.

[Tuan]

That's okay, they can ship Lin to LaLa Land. We'll take him!

[BYC]

Nike D'Antoni's resigned as Knicks coach.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...antoni-resigns

I never really like D'Antoni, and I believe he had some glaring weaknesses as a coach. His total lack of flexibility on style of basketball really bugs me, especially when he wasn't able to get through to the players at all from a defensive standpoint. His system requires a PG to have outstanding decision making, which other than Steve Nash, he has not been able to replicate with any other PG. Jeremy Lin is able to run it apparently, and Ray Felton seemed okay in it as well, but everybody else has failed horribly.

James Dolan seems to have no clue on how to build a franchise, going for the big splash rather than assembling a solid team. His reliance on Isiah Thomas, one of the worse basketball decision makers of all time, is baffling.

New York's mix of players is just not going to work very well because only a Phil Jackson or Pat Riley can get them to play defense. I think they will figure out a way to play offense, one way or another, now that D'Antoni is gone. His system was terrible for these players, and he deserves blame for not being able to figure out something that works. If it wasn't for Jeremy Lin, D'Antoni would have gotten fired months ago.

[Vic Vega]

Nike D'Antoni's resigned as Knicks coach.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...antoni-resigns

Can't say that I'm sorry to see him go.

To stubbornly refuse to play a half court system when A) your best player thrives in that system B) the playoffs are played half court by default and c) your main rivals the Heats, Bulls and Celts all play a physical style which makes hash of SSOL in crunch time, shows me you are the kind of dude that just doesn't get it.

His whole purpose was to lure Lebron to New York oce that failed he outlived any possible usefulness he could have.

I like Lin but if you try to run the offense thru him on the regular he'll get murdered.

[Dreadstar]

I like Lin but if you try to run the offense thru him on the regular he'll get murdered.

That's why the Heat will have him running point next year.

Awesomtastic.

[kalorama]

I figured he'd last to the end of the season, but other than the brief reprise provided by Linsanity, there was never any real question that this was his last season.

Can't say that I'm sorry to see him go.

To stubbornly refuse to play a half court system when A) your best player thrives in that system B) the playoffs are played half court by default and c) your main rivals the Heats, Bulls and Celts all play a physical style which makes hash of SSOL in crunch time, shows me you are the kind of dude that just doesn't get it.

Well, that door swings both ways. What sense does it make to hire a coach who everyone knows runs a very specific kind of system, sign him to an expensive 4-year contract, and then spend 4 years seemingly going out of your way to acquire players that in no way fit that system?