Logic For GCPD/Batman and The DC Universe

[The Angry Comic Book Critic]

Okay I love batman one of my all time favorite Character I've read the Comics, Seen the Movies and watched the TV shows but a few things have always bothered me simply from a real world point of view so as you read this I'm not saying this as if I were a fan I'm going to be saying it if all this stuff was literal so don't flame and be an asshole about it. I know what you would say "Because it would piss off the fans if there favorite villains were killed or Batman changed his MO a little bit" but this is not about being fans this is about looking at these thing from a more logical point of view as well as seeing if you like to see any of the concepts mention should be added to DC comics

Why does Gotham City Police department never take the shot? When I say this I mean when the Super villain is standing in plain sight gun/ Weapon of mass destruction in hand with no cover or hostage why don't they just do the smart thing and have the snipers gun that sucker down saving countless lives and making one less headache for the people of Gotham City.

Why Doesn't Batman lock up his more Dangerous Villains in the Batcave? Seriously do you think it would be possible for the Joker or Dr. Simon Hurt to escape from the Batcave if Batman actually wanted to keep them prisoner? I'm pretty sure the guy that took down a god fought his way threw time setting a trap hundreds of years in the past could hold a couple of Gotham's Crazies indefinitely.

Does the Death Penalty simply not exist in the DC Universe? Seriously some of the Villains have done things that would redefine war crimes and crimes against humanity for the next millennium how is it when they are captured a jury and a judge never say your getting the chair or the lethal injection it would save the world's heroes a lot of trouble.

Why Doesn't Bruce Wayne simply design Arkham asylum's security himself? Come on more than half your villains reside there and the place is basically a revolving door for the inmates so why not simply have batman design the security and have his alter ego pay for it? It beats the alternative.

[The Angry Comic Book Critic]

maybe I should have added in a more attention grabbing title

[carabas]

The death penalty does existy, but in the DCU it's more or less the same as two months solitary... It doesn't stick.

That said, corporate needs trump storytelling, and there simply is no pôint in looking for any logic there.
This is not about DC giving in to fan demand for Joker stories, this is about Joker stories being worth a lot of money to DC, basically about DC sacrificing story integrity for greed.

[ffritts]

Why does Gotham City Police department never take the shot? When I say this I mean when the Super villain is standing in plain sight gun/ Weapon of mass destruction in hand with no cover or hostage why don't they just do the smart thing and have the snipers gun that sucker down saving countless lives and making one less headache for the people of Gotham City..

Cop protocols, it would ruin their life and your families life just to kill someone. Look what happened to Bullock, sure no body would blame the cop but they would then be fired and the loss of pay would then result in their family to be in a worse situation.

Now if the call came from above their rank, thats a different story.

[QUOTE=The Angry Comic Book Critic;14255487]Why Doesn't Batman lock up his more Dangerous Villains in the Batcave? Seriously do you think it would be possible for the Joker or Dr. Simon Hurt to escape from the Batcave if Batman actually wanted to keep them prisoner? I'm pretty sure the guy that took down a god fought his way threw time setting a trap hundreds of years in the past could hold a couple of Gotham's Crazies indefinitely.

What if 1 of them did get out? Then that villian and everyone would know who Batman was. Think about the toys at the villians disposal not to mention the information.

Does the Death Penalty simply not exist in the DC Universe? Seriously some of the Villains have done things that would redefine war crimes and crimes against humanity for the next millennium how is it when they are captured a jury and a judge never say your getting the chair or the lethal injection it would save the world's heroes a lot of trouble.protocals.

Insanity, "they cant help it." Like someone thats born with another type of mental disorder they cant help it.

Why Doesn't Bruce Wayne simply design Arkham asylum's security himself? Come more than half your villains reside there and the place is basically a revolving door for the inmates so why not simply have batman design the security and have his alter ego pay for it? It beat the alternative.

He has helpped pay for securities an such and designed some of it, but as with any firewall there is always a design flaw in the system.

[Scud]

Going by your suggestions all of Batman's villains would be either dead or locked up permanently within a few years.

Comics stray from that kind of ultra-real world logic for a reason.

[carabas]

Comics stray from that kind of ultra-real world logic for a reason.

Infinitely ongoing, corporately owned comics do. Other comics don't really have a problem with it.

Also, that's not really ultra-real-world, is it? Having the bad guy lose in the end instead of suffering a very minor setback?

[Scud]

Infinitely ongoing, corporately owned comics do. Other comics don't really have a problem with it.

Also, that's not really ultra-real-world, is it? Having the bad guy lose in the end instead of suffering a very minor setback?

It feels like you decided to twist my words even though I think you know what I really meant. The villains would have to be a lot more subdued and couldn't do the kinds of big larger than life things they do without painting targets all over themselves and the cops would most likely kill them. All the small timers would be easy pickings for Batman. That sounds like a pretty boring scenario for Batman to be stuck in indefinitely.

[Jake V]

Infinitely ongoing, corporately owned comics do. Other comics don't really have a problem with it.

Also, that's not really ultra-real-world, is it? Having the bad guy lose in the end instead of suffering a very minor setback?

That's the thing about ongoing comics. There is no end.

[carabas]

It feels like you decided to twist my words even though I think you know what I really meant. The villains would have to be a lot more subdued and couldn't do the kinds of big larger than life things they do without painting targets all over themselves and the cops would most likely kill them. All the small timers would be easy pickings for Batman. That sounds like a pretty boring scenario for Batman to be stuck in indefinitely.

To be honest, I don't really get what you are trying to say here.

I don't feel like words have been twisted though.

[thwhtGuardian]

That's the thing about ongoing comics. There is no end.

Indeed, it's less about corporate greed and more to do with the nature of a perpetually ongoing serialized story.

It's a story that's crafted to continue for ever and you do that by basically returning the world back to where it was when ever you finish a story.

[IamtheRock3]

I would like to see a new cast of villans ever few years or so though

maybe with a big guns not totaly going away for good but taking a break, which would make each of their return for a year

Like what if before Dark knight Joker wasn't around for 2 years. He would return the same time the movie comes out. Same with Bane. What if Bane locked up for like a good year, rebuilding himself to the bad ass he use to be in Jail. Hell you can have a 12 issue max series with him in Jail

[Jono11]

a few things have always bothered me simply from a real world point of view

There's your problem right there. You'll want to get that fixed.

Why does Gotham City Police department never take the shot? When I say this I mean when the Super villain is standing in plain sight gun/ Weapon of mass destruction in hand with no cover or hostage why don't they just do the smart thing and have the snipers gun that sucker down saving countless lives and making one less headache for the people of Gotham City.

Is that a situation which arises frequently?

Why Doesn't Batman lock up his more Dangerous Villains in the Batcave?

Same reason he doesn't kill them, or involve himself in any other aspect of their punishment.

Does the Death Penalty simply not exist in the DC Universe?

It does, but what exists even more is the insanity defense. This is a real thing, too. Crazy people that kill other people can end up in an asylum and not prison.

Why Doesn't Bruce Wayne simply design Arkham asylum's security himself? Come on more than half your villains reside there and the place is basically a revolving door for the inmates so why not simply have batman design the security and have his alter ego pay for it?

A well-designed security system does not account for corrupt guards and Bane blowing it up with a rocket launcher.

Like what if before Dark knight Joker wasn't around for 2 years. He would return the same time the movie comes out. Same with Bane. What if Bane locked up for like a good year, rebuilding himself to the bad ass he use to be in Jail. Hell you can have a 12 issue max series with him in Jail

Why do the movies have something to do with it?

[IamtheRock3]

not really just seem like good marketing

You know let them take a break, till a movie with them come out

[Jono11]

not really just seem like good marketing

You know let them take a break, till a movie with them come out

They're two completely different media. I just don't really see the connection. Movie audiences don't read comics. Comics audiences don't make their purchases based on movies.

[Vakanai]

Infinitely ongoing, corporately owned comics do. Other comics don't really have a problem with it.

I like infinitely ongoing, corporately owned comics.



As for the topic, these things don't happen because we'd soon run out of iconic villains, and then Batman would have to face new guys who might be nowhere near as interesting.