Minorities and Other Issues in Comics Thread/Community III

[StoneGold]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1059630

A miles and peter team up. I wonder what 616 peter thinks of Ultimate Peter's death. A common enemy .. What enemy do they both have in common?

Gingivitis.


EDIT: Holy shit, how awesome would it be if the bad guys were the Cavity Creeps, and the whole thing is a commercial/PSA tie-in?

[dupont2005]

I lurk in here but I haven't posted I don't think. Anyway, thought some of you might be interested in this. I have been following this series for a while. Pretty cool. It had a long hiatus but seems to be back on track with two or three issues coming out within a somewhat short time frame so I figured I'd mention it just in case someone's interested. For a full color glossy self published comic the prices are great too. He always sends me freebies. In fact, if someone is really interested and wants the last few issues to check out for themselves let me know. He gave me some extras and I haven't given them out yet.

http://songofsongsthecomicbook.com/

[stealmyluck]

As does any discussion on the DC boards about race, already people are saying "her story hasn't been told" when it doesn't take a genius to see that it won't or else she wouldn't have been killed off in 8 pages. I wonder how long it'll take until someone says bl "it was Black Manta, he's black so it's ok"

Very. First. Post.

Oh CBR you're nothing if not predictable. Even the old bigots on Bleeding Cool are having a civil and informed discussion on the issue. I don't think the people replying on the message board even read the whole of Mr. Naraghis letter. He clearly states at the end:

I hope that you will consider my thought on this topic in the spirit that they were written: not to condemn, but hopefully to illuminate.

Still and all people are taking shots at the writer and anyone else who disagrees with their stance on the situation. Ugh.

I've a bigger problem with people that actually think this story is "creative". Seriously? Villain kills hero to show how bad he is. What's next? Villain kills civilian to show how bad he is? Never seen that before. Throw these dudes some Eisners! They're breaking new ground!

I think Johns is working too hard to make Aquaman seem cool. He is or he isn't. You can't force that shizz. Black Manta is NEVER going to be seen as some sort of super bad a$$. Stop trying. It's lame and leads to crap like this. Namors popping because every time he appeared writers took him seriously. Do that with Arthur and he'll be aight. Or just use Brave and the Bold AQ. Everyone loves that dude.

Peace

[StoneGold]

Very. First. Post.

Oh CBR you're nothing if not predictable. Even the old bigots on Bleeding Cool are having a civil and informed discussion on the issue. I don't think the people replying on the message board even read the whole of Mr. Naraghis letter. He clearly states at the end:



Still and all people are taking shots at the writer and anyone else who disagrees with their stance on the situation. Ugh.

I've a bigger problem with people that actually think this story is "creative". Seriously? Villain kills hero to show how bad he is. What's next? Villain kills civilian to show how bad he is? Never seen that before. Throw these dudes some Eisners! They're breaking new ground!

I think Johns is working too hard to make Aquaman seem cool. He is or he isn't. You can't force that shizz. Black Manta is NEVER going to be seen as some sort of super bad a$$. Stop trying. It's lame and leads to crap like this. Namors popping because every time he appeared writers took him seriously. Do that with Arthur and he'll be aight. Or just use Brave and the Bold AQ. Everyone loves that dude.

Peace

That's pretty much been the basic theme of Aquaman since Johns took over -- No, Aquaman doesn't suck, he rocks! Except by addressing that, by bringing it up so up front, where the metatext becomes supertext, it all falls apart. You make him cool, you don't convince people that he's cool.

[Nate Grey]

And the Avengers.

Hulk
Thor
Captain America
Iron man

how the hell did they end up together? A team up to fight someone Thor usually handled alone.

Maybe Thor's good at delegation?

Thats like Michael Jordan. Wayne Gretzky. Christina Yamaguichi. and Eric Clapton forming a super team to fight Bill Laimbeer.

Sweet sweet memories.

[Vibranium]

that cartoon has not aged well

[FanboyStranger]

Maybe Thor's good at delegation?





Sweet sweet memories.

Is that supposed to be Bo Jackson with Jordan and Gretsky? Jordan totally looks like Curly Neal from the time the Globetrotters teamed up with Scooby Doo.

[StoneGold]

And the Avengers.

Hulk
Thor
Captain America
Iron man

how the hell did they end up together? A team up to fight someone Thor usually handled alone.

They were every solo character not named Spider-Man at Marvel at the time.

The problem more comes about when you already have the Avengers, or Justice League, which are the team of random heroes. So when you put together your next team book of random heroes, they look a little redundant unless you can figure out a hook.

[Nate Grey]

Is that supposed to be Bo Jackson with Jordan and Gretsky?

It sure is.

Jordan totally looks like Curly Neal from the time the Globetrotters teamed up with Scooby Doo.

lol yeah.

[Jabare]

vote Batwing

http://forums.comicbookresources.com...ern-vs-Batwing

[Huthaifa]

I just dont get how you dont understand the Aquaman complaint. As fan, you get all pumped to see a hero that "represents" you, and that hero gets dusted in 8 pages.Here is a wacky idea, make more of your heroes religiously and ethnically diverse, and no one will care if a random character dies.

[Johnny P. Sartre]

Easy, by thinking this is another reason for non-whites and white to get relied up and go against the white man when in reality it's none of that shit.

That and by not reading the letter and making broad statements.

[babybro]

No one has said anything about miles and peters race

Might want to recheck again broski, aka marvelprince and mrv post.

[JaggedFel]

Very. First. Post.

Oh CBR you're nothing if not predictable. Even the old bigots on Bleeding Cool are having a civil and informed discussion on the issue. I don't think the people replying on the message board even read the whole of Mr. Naraghis letter. He clearly states at the end:



Still and all people are taking shots at the writer and anyone else who disagrees with their stance on the situation. Ugh.

I've a bigger problem with people that actually think this story is "creative". Seriously? Villain kills hero to show how bad he is. What's next? Villain kills civilian to show how bad he is? Never seen that before. Throw these dudes some Eisners! They're breaking new ground!

I think Johns is working too hard to make Aquaman seem cool. He is or he isn't. You can't force that shizz. Black Manta is NEVER going to be seen as some sort of super bad a$$. Stop trying. It's lame and leads to crap like this. Namors popping because every time he appeared writers took him seriously. Do that with Arthur and he'll be aight. Or just use Brave and the Bold AQ. Everyone loves that dude.

Peace

IMO, Black Manta was already badass certainly he has been shown as plenty brutal enough in the past that notching a no name kill is not going to increase his cred too much.

[Vic Vega]

Isnt Black Manta's classic claim to fame killing. Aquaman's kid?

We know the dude is a murderer already.

I'm not saying minority characters can't ever die in comics, but between this other League in Aquaman and the African superteam in Batwing, there is a definate " minority characters are cannon fodder" vibe to all this.

And for a comics company that can get use out of even its most obscure characters(Dial H for Hero, Creature. Commandos) it is fairly suspect looking.