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    Default Top 40 Batman Trades poll - One Year Later


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    Around this time one year ago I counted up the votes of two dozen members to create this table, the result I think is an interesting picture of our favorite Batman stories. It was an experiment and a bit of fun but I also thought it might help serve as a prompt to anyone looking for ideas on what to buy next. It lives in a sticky thread at the top of this board.

    The purpose of revisiting this poll is to a) keep it current and relevant and b) grow the number of contributors. I'd like to re-open it to the board and if we get another half dozen responses, great, another twenty well that'd be awesome. I'm also just interested to see if the table changes shape.

    Votes from the Year Two round will be added into the current ranking - this a rolling count. If you voted last year your new Top 20 will take the place of your former submission.



    The same voting guide applies, please pay particular attention to Number Five as it will directly effect the way you draw up your vote


    Open to any trade in the Batman umbrella
    This includes Batfamily titles but keep in mind that most of these will fall under a Group Vote

    Ranked from One-to-Twenty
    I’ve chosen the figure of 20 trades because it will produce the most worthwhile and revealing result. Submissions under 20 trades will not be counted. Submissions must be ranked in a deliberate order.

    Must be a collected edition.
    If you've read the story in singles issues then that's fine, but you will need to vote for it in its collected form. For instance a vote for "the first Greg Rucka Detective run" is probably best matched by Murderer/Fugitive or Batman Evolution

    Vote for your favourite books, not the "most important".
    The IGN list nails this perfectly; "Sometimes too much importance is placed on the significance of a story rather than the quality of the storytelling. A story needs to be compelling beyond just the plot twists. Great stories are unforgettable. It's not enough just to be a good read, each of these books must linger in our memories." You get the idea.

    Group Voting
    A poll like this requires a way to simplify voting when it comes to multi-trade stories, runs, collections etc. Group Voting means that if you're choosing No Mans Land, for example, you don't need to use up five positions to include the whole thing, and you don't need to pick your favourite volume at the expense of the rest. Therefore a vote for NML vol.5 will also count for NML as a whole. A vote for Batman Reborn is a vote for the whole Grant Morrison Batman & Robin run. This also means you can't stack a submission with more than one type of book or anything too closely related.

    Just so we’re *absolutely clear* on which books qualify as a Group Vote, please refer to The List. If it has a bracket next to it you can only vote for a book in that particular Group once - pick your favourite volume to represent it (these may or may be put to a sub poll). Multiple votes from one Group will not be counted.


    And with that, we can begin....


    Does Gotham Central go before or after The Black Mirror? Difficult decisions!


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    Following is every Bat family trade you'd ever want to vote for, and a whole lot that you probably wouldn't


    A Death in the Family
    A Lonely Place of Dying
    The Arrow, the Ring and the Bat
    Absolution
    All Star Batman & Robin the Boy Wonder
    Anarky
    Arkham Asylum Anniversary Edition
    Arkham Asylum: Living Hell
    Arkham Reborn
    As the Crow Flies
    Azrael: Death in the Dark (Fabian Nicieza Azrael run)
    Azrael: Deaths Dark Knight (Fabian Nicieza Azrael run)
    The Bat & The Cat
    The Bat and the Beast
    Batgirl 01: Silent Running (Kelly Pucket Batgirl run)
    Batgirl 02: A Knight Alone (Kelly Pucket Batgirl run)
    Batgirl 03: Death Wish (Kelly Pucket Batgirl run)
    Batgirl 04: Fists of Fury (Kelly Pucket Batgirl run)
    Batgirl 05: Kicking Assassins (Andersen Gabrych Batgirl run)
    Batgirl 06: Destruction's Daughter (Andersen Gabrych Batgirl run)
    Batgirl 07: Redemption
    Batgirl v2.01: Batgirl Rising (Bryan Q Miller run)
    Batgirl v2.02: The Flood (Bryan Q Miller run)
    Batgirl v2.03: The Lesson (Bryan Q Miller run)
    Batgirl: Year One
    The Batman Adventures (Batman Adventures vol.1)
    Batman & Son (Morrison Batman run)
    Batman and Catwoman: Trail of the Gun
    Batman and the Mad Monk (Full Moon Rising)
    Batman and the Monster Men (Full Moon Rising)
    Batman Beyond vol.1
    Batman Chronicles 1 (Batman Chronicles)
    Batman Chronicles 2 (Batman Chronicles)
    Batman Chronicles 3 (Batman Chronicles)
    Batman Chronicles 4 (Batman Chronicles)
    Batman featuring Two-Face and the Riddler
    Batman Incorporated vol.1
    Batman in the Eighties
    Batman in the Fifties
    Batman in the Forties
    Batman in the Seventies
    Batman in the Sixties
    Batman of Arkham
    Batman Reborn (Grant Morrison Batman & Robin run)
    Batman VS Robin (Grant Morrison Batman & Robin run)
    Batman Must Die (Grant Morrison Batman & Robin run)
    Batman vs Predator vol.1
    Batman vs The Undead
    Batman/Aliens
    Batman/Daredevil: King of New York
    Batman/Deadman: Death and Glory
    Batman/Deathblow: After the Fire
    Batman/Demon: A Tragedy
    Batman/Green Arrow: The Poison Tomorrow
    Batman/Grendel
    Batman/Houdini: The Devil's Workshop
    Batman/Huntress: A Cry for Blood
    Batman/Judge Dredd: Judgment on Gotham (Batman/Judge Dredd)
    Batman/Judge Dredd: The Ultimate Riddle (Batman/Judge Dredd)
    Batman/Judge Dredd: Vendetta in Gotham (Batman/Judge Dredd)
    Batman/Lobo
    Batman/Manbat
    Batman/Nightwing: Bloodborne
    Batman/Phantom Stranger
    Batman/Poison Ivy: Cast Shadows
    Batman/Tarzan: Claws of the Catwoman
    Batman/Two-Face: Crime and Punishment
    Batman: Bane
    Batman: Batgirl
    Batman: Harley Quinn
    Batman: Mr. Freeze
    Batman: Poison Ivy
    Batman Archives 1 (The Dark Knight Archives collection)
    Battle for the Cowl
    Batwoman: Elegy
    Batman & The Outsiders: Showcase Edition
    Birds of Prey 00: Old Friends, New Enemies (Chuck Dixon BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 00: Black Canary/Oracle (Chuck Dixon BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 01: Of Like Minds (Gail Simone BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 02: Sensei & Student (Gail Simone BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 03: Between Dark & Dawn (Gail Simone BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 04: The Battle Within (Gail Simone BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 05: Perfect Pitch (Gail Simone BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 06: Blood and Circuits (Gail Simone BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 07: Dead of Winter (Gail Simone BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 09: Metropolis or Dust
    Birds of Prey 08: Club Kids (Tony Bedard BoP run)
    Birds of Prey 10: Platinum Flats (Tony Bedard BoP run)
    Birth of the Demon (Birth of the Demon collection)
    The Black Mirror
    Black & White 1 (Batman Black & White)
    Black & White 2 (Batman Black & White)
    Black & White 3 (Batman Black & White)
    The Black Casebook
    The Black Glove (Grant Morrison Batman run)
    Blind Justice
    Bloodstorm
    Book of Shadows
    Bride of the Demon (Birth of the Demon collection)
    Broken City
    Bruce Wayne: Fugitive 1 (Murderer Fugitive crossover)
    Bruce Wayne: Fugitive 2 (Murderer Fugitive crossover)
    Bruce Wayne: Fugitive 3 (Murderer Fugitive crossover)
    Bruce Wayne: Murderer (Murderer Fugitive crossover)
    Cacaphony
    Cataclysm
    Catwoman 01: Dark End of the Street (Ed Brubakers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 02: Crooked Little Town (Ed Brubakers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 03: Relentless (Ed Brubakers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 04: Wild Ride (Ed Brubakers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 05: The Replacements (Will Pfeifers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 06: It's Only a Movie (Will Pfeifers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 07: Catwoman's Dead (Will Pfiefers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 08: Crime Pays (Will Pfiefers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman 09: The Long Road Home (Will Pfiefers Catwoman run)
    Catwoman: My Sisters Keeper
    Catwoman: Nine Lives of A Feline Fatale
    Catwoman: Selina's Big Score (Ego & Other Tails)
    Catwoman: The Catfile (Chuck Dixon Catwoman run)
    Catwoman: When in Rome
    The Chalice
    Child of Dreams
    City of Crime
    The Collected Legends of the Dark Knight
    Contagion
    Crimson Mist (Vampire Trilogy)
    The Cult
    Dangerous Dames & Demons (Mad Love & Other Stories HC)
    Dark Detective
    Dark Knight Adventures (Batman Adventures vol.1)
    Dark Knight Dynasty
    The Dark Knight Returns
    The Dark Knight Strikes Again
    Dark Legends
    Dark Victory
    DC Presents: Dark Knight, Dark City
    Death and the Maidens
    Death in the City (Paul Dini Detective run)
    Detective # 27
    Detective (Paul Dini Detective run)
    Dreamland
    Ego and Other Tails (Ego, Selinas Big Score)
    Evolution
    Face the Face
    Faces
    False Faces
    Flashpoint: Knight of Vengeance
    Fortunate Son
    Four of a Kind
    Full Circle
    The Gauntlet
    Going Sane
    The Golden Streets of Gotham
    Gotham Adventures
    Gotham by Gaslight
    Gotham City Sirens 01: Union
    Gotham City Sirens 02: Song of the Sirens
    The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told 1 1989 (GBSET1989)
    The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told 2 1989 (GBSET1898)
    The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told (Alex Ross cover) 01 (GBSET2005)
    The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told (Alex Ross cover) 02 (GBSET2005)
    The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told
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    Harvest Breed
    Haunted Knight
    Heart of Hush
    Hidden Treasures
    Hong Kong
    Huntress: Year One
    Hush
    Hush Returns
    Illustrated by Neal Adams, Volume 1 (Illustrated by Neal Adams collection)
    Illustrated by Neal Adams, Volume 2 (Illustrated by Neal Adams collection)
    Illustrated by Neal Adams, Volume 3 (Illustrated by Neal Adams collection)
    I, Joker
    JLA: The Tower of Babel
    Joker
    Jokers Asylum I
    Jokers Asylum II
    The Joker: Devil's Advocate
    The Joker: Last Laugh
    Joker: Switch
    The Killing Joke
    King Tuts Tomb
    Knightfall 1: Broken Bat (Knightfall crossover)
    Knightfall 2: Who Rules the Night (Knightfall crossover)
    Knightfall 3: Knightsend (Knightfall crossover)
    The Last Arkham
    Legacy
    Life After Death
    The Long Halloween
    Long Shadows
    Lovers and Madmen
    Mad Love (Mad Love and Other Stories)
    The Man Who Laughs
    The Many Deaths of the Batman
    Masque
    Master of the Future
    Monster
    Night Cries
    Nightwing 01: A Knight in Blüdhaven (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 02: Rough Justice (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 03: Love and Bullets (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 04: A Darker Shade of Justice (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 05: The Hunt for Oracle (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 06: Big Guns (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 07: On the Razor's Edge (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 08: Year One (Chuck Dixon Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 09: Mobbed Up (Devin Grayson Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 10: Renegade (Devin Grayson Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 11: Brothers in Blood
    Nightwing 12: Love and War (Marv Wolfman Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 13: The Lost Year (Marv Wolfman Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 14: Freefall (Peter Tomasi Nightwing run)
    Nightwing 15: The Great Leap (Peter Tomas Nightwing run)
    Nightwing/Huntress
    Nightwing: The Ties That Bind
    Nine Lives
    No Mans Land 1 (No Mans Land)
    No Mans Land 2 (No Mans Land)
    No Mans Land 3 (No Mans Land)
    No Mans Land 4 (No Mans Land)
    No Mans Land 5 (No Mans Land)
    Nosferatu
    Odyssey vol.1
    Officer Down
    Order of Beasts
    Other Realms
    Penguin Triumphant
    Planetary/Batman: Night on Earth
    Prey
    Prodigal
    R.I.P. (Grant Morrison Batman run)
    Red Hood: The Lost Days
    Red Rain (Vampire Trilogy)
    Red Robin: Collision (Chris Yost Red Robin run)
    Red Robin: The Grail (Chris Yost Red Robin run)
    Red Robin: The Hit List (Fabian Nicieza Robin run)
    Red Hood: Lost Years
    Reign of Terror
    The Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul
    The Return of Bruce Wayne (Grant Morrison Batman run)
    Robin 00: A Hero Reborn (Chuck Dixon Robin run)
    Robin 00: Tragedy & Triumph (Chuck Dixon Robin run)
    Robin 01 : Flying Solo (Chuck Dixon Robin run)
    Robin 02: Unmasked (Bill Willingham Robin run)
    Robin 03: To Kill a Bird (Bill Willingham Robin run)
    Robin 04: Days of Fire & Madness (Bill Willingham Robin run)
    Robin 05: Wanted (Adam Beechen Robin Run)
    Robin 06: Teenage Wasteland (Adam Beechen Robin run)
    Robin 07: The Big Leagues (Adam Beechen Robin run)
    Robin 08: Violent Tendencies (Chuck Dixon Robin run)
    Robin 09: Search for a Hero
    Robin/Batgirl: Fresh Blood (Bill Willinghams Robin run)
    Robin: Year One
    Roomful of Strangers
    Rules of Engagement
    Scar of the Bat
    Scarecrow Tales
    Scarface
    Secrets
    Secrets of the Batcave
    Selinas Big Score (Ego & Other Tails)
    Shaman
    Showcase Presents: Batman & the Outsiders
    Snow
    Son of the Demon (Birth of the Demon collection)
    Strange Apparitions
    Streets of Gotham 01: Hush Money (Streets of Gotham series)
    Streets of Gotham 02: Leviathan (Streets of Gotham series)
    Streets of Gotham 03: House of Hush (Streets of Gotham series)
    Superman/Batman: Public Enemies (Jeph Loeb Superman/Batman run)
    Sword of Azrael
    Tales of the Batman: Gene Colan
    Tales of the Batman: Tim Sale
    Tales of the Demon
    Ten Nights of the Beast
    Terror
    Thrillkiller
    Time and the Batman (Grant Morrison Batman run)
    Trinity
    Turning Points
    Under the Hood
    Untold Legend of the Batman
    The Unseen
    Venom
    War Crimes
    War Drums
    War Games 1: Outbreak (War Games)
    War Games 2: Tides (War Games)
    War Games 3: Endgame (War Games)
    War on Crime
    Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader
    The Widening Gyre
    The Wrath
    Year One
    Year One: Ra's al Ghul
    Year 100
    Year Two: Fear the Reaper

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    1. The Dark Knight Returns
    2. Batman Must Die (Morrison Batman & Robin run)
    3. Year One
    4. The Killing Joke
    5. The Long Halloween
    6. Batman Incorporated vol.1
    7. Year 100
    8. All Star Batman & Robin the Boy Wonder
    9. Batwoman: Elegy
    10. The Dark Knight Strikes Again
    11. Batman & Son (Morrison Batman run)
    12. The Black Mirror
    13. Batgirl: Year One
    14. Arkham Asylum Anniversary Edition
    15. Mad Love (Mad Love and Other Stories)
    16. Catwoman: Selina's Big Score (Ego & Other Tails)
    17. Flashpoint: Knight of Vengeance
    18. Gotham by Gaslight
    19. No Mans Land 1 (No Mans Land)
    20. Hush

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    My new list


    The Dark Knight Returns
    The Dark Knight Strikes Again
    Batman & Son (Morrison Batman run)
    Year One
    The Killing Joke

    Batman Incorporated
    Selinas Big Score (Ego & Other Tails)
    Year One Hundred
    Dark Knight, Dark City
    Blind Justice

    All Star Batman & Robin the Boy Wonder
    Hush
    Gotham Central 02: Half a Life (Gotham Central)
    Batwoman: Elegy
    Joker

    Strange Apparitions
    Tales of the Batman: Gene Colan
    Black & White vol.2 (Black & White)
    The Collected Legends of the Dark Knight
    The Black Mirror


    Quote Originally Posted by El Sombrero View Post
    17. Flashpoint: Knight of Vengeance
    Before someone asks, no this has yet to be announced for trade but we can assume it inevitably will be sometime very soon, and considering the attention it received it should be open to vote on imo
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    The Man who Laughs
    Hush
    Birth of the Demon
    The Dark Knight Returns
    The Killing Joke
    Venom
    Prey
    No Mans Land
    Knightfall
    Batman and Son/Batman RIP
    Dark Victory
    Dark Knight,Dark city
    Batman and Robin
    Catwoman:when in Rome
    Son of the Demon
    Birds of Prey:Sensei and Student
    Batman:Poison Ivy
    Nightwing Year one
    Batman Year one
    Robin a hero reborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepenthes View Post
    Before someone asks, no this has yet to be announced for trade but we can assume it inevitably will be sometime very soon, and considering the attention it received it should be open to vote on imo
    http://www.amazon.com/Flashpoint-Wor...9890506&sr=8-2



    I like your list, we have a lot of the same picks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkseidpwns View Post
    The Man who Laughs
    Hush
    Birth of the Demon
    The Dark Knight Returns
    The Killing Joke
    Venom
    Prey
    No Mans Land
    Knightfall
    Batman and Son
    Dark Victory
    Batman RIP
    Batman and Robin
    Catwoman:when in Rome
    Son of the Demon
    Birds of Prey:Sensei and Student
    Batman:Poison Ivy
    Nightwing Year one
    Batman Year one
    Robin a hero reborn
    Just noticed this, Batman & Son and Batman RIP are part of the same group (Morrison Batman run). So you should combine those and add another choice. I'd probably just edit your original post to avoid confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Sombrero View Post
    Just noticed this, Batman & Son and Batman RIP are part of the same group (Morrison Batman run). So you should combine those and add another choice. I'd probably just edit your original post to avoid confusion.
    I dont think that applies. I believe it has to be something like No man's land, Knightfall, fugitive, and so on...

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    1.Arkham Asylum Anniversary Edition
    2.The Long Halloween
    3.Knightfall
    4.The Dark Knight Returns
    5.Unresolved Targets
    6.Year One
    7.The Cult
    8.Robin: Year One
    9.Ten Nights of the Beast
    10.Hush
    11.Dark Victory
    12.The Killing Joke
    13.Red Robin: The Grail
    14.Nightwing Rough Justice
    15.Year 100
    16.Robin-A hero reborn
    17.Arkham Asylum: Living Hell
    18.Batman Reborn
    19.City of crime
    20.20.Scottish Connection.......(Don't judge)

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    Batman & Son and RIP fall into the same group. I know these groups need to be very clearly defined which is why I went to the trouble of posting the entire list of trades for reference - if there's parenthesis or bracket next to it, it's part of a group.

    Just to be clear, I've broken the Morrison run up into

    BATMAN RUN - Batman & Son, Black Glove, RIP, Return of Bruce Wayne (I take the view that these tell Bruce Wayne's journey in the saga )
    BATMAN & ROBIN RUN - Batman Reborn, Batman VS Robin, Batman Must Die, Time and the Batman
    INCORPORATED RUN - trade vol.1, issues 8,9, Levathian Strikes
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    1. No Man's Land
    2. Gotham Central Book 2 Joker's and Mad men
    3. Elegy
    4. Batman Year One
    5. Knightfall
    6. Gotham Shall be Judge
    7. Batman RIP
    8. Black Mirror
    9. Room full of Strangers
    10. Sword of Azrael
    11. Hush
    12. Whatever happened to the Caped Crusader
    13. Joker
    14. Batgirl The Lesson
    15. Batman must Die
    16. Batgirl Year One
    17. Batgirl Silent Running
    18. A Knight in Bludhaven
    19. Red Robin Collision
    20. Untold Legend of Batman
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Sombrero View Post
    Just noticed this, Batman & Son and Batman RIP are part of the same group (Morrison Batman run). So you should combine those and add another choice. I'd probably just edit your original post to avoid confusion.
    Did it.Added Dark Knight,dark city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepenthes View Post
    Batman & Son and RIP fall into the same group. I know these groups need to be very clearly defined which is why I went to the trouble of posting the entire list of trades for reference - if there's parenthesis or bracket next to it, it's part of a group.

    Just to be clear, I've broken the Morrison run up into

    Batman run - Batman & Son, Black Glove, RIP, Return of Bruce Wayne (I take the view that these tell Bruce Wayne's journey in the saga )
    Batman & Robin run - Batman Reborn, Batman VS Robin, Batman Must Die, Time and the Batman
    Incorporated run - trade vol.1, issues 8,9
    Okay, just so I understand before voting: We are voting for best trades, right, and not groups? Because if that's the case there'd be no reason not to vote for both Batman and Son and RIP, since they're separate trades. Or is it like Knightfall, where you'd vote for Knightfall, and not Knightfall vol 1, or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffritts View Post
    1. No Man's Land
    2. Gotham Central Book 2 Joker's and Mad men
    3. Elegy
    4. Batman Year One
    5. Knightfall
    6. Gotham Shall be Judge
    7. Batman RIP
    8. Black Mirror
    9. Room full of Strangers
    10. Sword of Azrael
    11. Hush
    12. Whatever happened to the Caped Crusader
    13. Cult
    14. Batgirl The Lesson
    15. Batman must Die
    16. Batgirl Year One
    17. Batgirl Silent Running
    18. A Knight in Bludhaven
    19. Red Robin Collision
    20. Untold Legend of Batman
    I love your list, off the beaten path a bit and a couple I had forgotten about

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