Grimm

[kalorama]

The reputation has to come from somewhere, and so far I do not see from where.

The thing is, no matter how skilled a Grimm is, he is still fighting against enemies, who are superior in numbers, who are in most cases stronger and have strange abilities. So he should die in short time. I do not see for example why the Blutbaden are afraid of the Grimm, when one Blutbaden is more powerful than a Grimm. A Grimm might take out one Blutbaden with superior skill and weapons, but I do not think this is enough to bring such terror to the Blutbaden and the other monsters. So what made the whole supernatural community be afraid of the Grimm? I would understand respect, but not such fear.

Buffy for example had her super strength, which made her stronger than a vampire.

We are afraid of mythological creatures like vampires, werewolves. But unlike the Grimm whose only ability is the power to see monsters (and this only when the monsters are agitated), those are creatures who are supposed to have supernatural powers and are superior to humans.

So the show should explain where the repution of the Grimm comes from or give the guy some supernatural abilities.

Well, an entire pack of wolves can kill one hunter, but when they see one with a gun they all take off. The monsters have animal instincts. Also, the cop is the last Grimm, but has it been established that there's only ever been one Grimm active at a time throughout their entire existence? I don't recall that (although I haven't seen every episode). My presumption was that, in times past, there were multiple Grimms running around hunting these guys, making picking them off one by one more of a chore.

In any case, the inherent problem with the whole "gang up on the Grimms" strategy is that, the more they come into the light to polish off their enemies, the more likely they are to be seen by the rest of the world. They may out number the Grimms, but they don't outnumber the police, national guard, army, navy, air force, and marines. Staying below the radar is a defense mechanism that helps maintain their survival by not exposing their existence to the world at large (just as was the case with vampires in Buffy).

[snarkbunny]

In any case, the inherent problem with the whole "gang up on the Grimms" strategy is that, the more they come into the light to polish off their enemies, the more likely they are to be seen by the rest of the world. They may out number the Grimms, but they don't outnumber the police, national guard, army, navy, air force, and marines. Staying below the radar is a defense mechanism that helps maintain their survival by not exposing their existence to the world at large (just as was the case with vampires in Buffy).

I like that reasoning, it makes the most amount of sense to me. Plus, I think because Nick didn't grow up immersed in the Grimm world, he is working on the "Live and Let Live Unless They Break the LAW!" philosophy. Meeting Monroe I think really helped there.

I suspect that this is actually what his Captain is hoping for. A lot of the monsters seem to be integrating themselves into modern society and leaving their old ways behind.

[kane]

Well, an entire pack of wolves can kill one hunter, but when they see one with a gun they all take off. The monsters have animal instincts.

The monsters are intelligent and can use weapons, too (as we have seen in todays episode).

Also, the cop is the last Grimm, but has it been established that there's only ever been one Grimm active at a time throughout their entire existence? I don't recall that (although I haven't seen every episode). My presumption was that, in times past, there were multiple Grimms running around hunting these guys, making picking them off one by one more of a chore.

But this is no reason to be afraid of an individual Grimm

In any case, the inherent problem with the whole "gang up on the Grimms" strategy is that, the more they come into the light to polish off their enemies, the more likely they are to be seen by the rest of the world. They may out number the Grimms, but they don't outnumber the police, national guard, army, navy, air force, and marines. Staying below the radar is a defense mechanism that helps maintain their survival by not exposing their existence to the world at large (just as was the case with vampires in Buffy).

There is no problem with staying under the radar. Only Grimm can see the monsters. Even a coroner did not realize that the bodies lying in the morgue are not human. Even when the monsters are agitatad and their true face appears only a Grimm can see the face. I think the Grimm would have more problems here. They would have to convince the police etc. that they are not crazy and the people they killed are not humans. Apparently they did not succeed so far and people believe the monsters to be fairy tales.

And I am not talking about gangs of monsters (which to the authorities would like a gang of humans anyway) attacking a Grimm. A Blutbaden for example casually rips a human arm off. Two of them would be more than enough.

Take the hunters in Supernatural. They kill their share of monsters and the are respected by some of the monsters. But they do not cause fear like the Grimm.

[AdamYJ]

Well, an entire pack of wolves can kill one hunter, but when they see one with a gun they all take off. The monsters have animal instincts. Also, the cop is the last Grimm, but has it been established that there's only ever been one Grimm active at a time throughout their entire existence? I don't recall that (although I haven't seen every episode). My presumption was that, in times past, there were multiple Grimms running around hunting these guys, making picking them off one by one more of a chore.

I'd think there'd have been at least two Grimms at one time. Because, y'know, the Brothers Grimm were two guys: Jacob and Wilhelm. The Grimms were actual people trying to preserve German folk culture in the 19th century. I'd like the show to explain what the connection is between the two.

As for why the Grimms are feared, I imagine their legend has been exagerrated over time. The Grimms probably caught them unawares at first and killed a whole lot of the creatures and then the creatures probably started spreading all sorts of stories about them, attributing supernatural powers to them and the Grimms let the stories do the work.

[kalorama]

In the eps I've seen, the monsters haven't expressed any real reflexive fear of the cop/Grimm. Neither the female wolf and the pig in the latest episode ran screaming from hi when they found out who he was. In fact, the she-wolf went after him and the pig held him at gunpoint. Either one of them could have easily killed him if they wanted to.

[maczero]

But this is no reason to be afraid of an individual Grimm

Why isn't there? Grimms have a history of killing monsters. If they're successful then it makes sense to be fearful of them. Not to mention, not all monsters are physically superior to humans. And every single one we've seen, can be harmed through conventional means (shooting, stabbing etc.).

Also, as stated above not every monster is afraid of Grimms. In fact, I can only think of one or two instances where one was outrightly fearful of Nick.

[PiratesPensSteelers]

I think the show also needs an explanation for why these Monsters seem to be in such great numbers around where the main character lives.

Could be that his boss is one of the "bad guys" leaders or whatever and since he is there a lot of the run of the mill bad guys are in the area as well.

[snarkbunny]

Could be that his boss is one of the "bad guys" leaders or whatever and since he is there a lot of the run of the mill bad guys are in the area as well.

Well in the show with the second Reaper and kidnapper/lover/goatsatyr didn't the Reaper kneel to Captain Renard and Renard referred to it as "his" city? That implies to me that Renard is in a position of power.

:Oops - misread, PPS - sorry about that. May be because Renard is there, or maybe there are a lot of them.

[Frank]

The last episode was quite a quality jump. Loved the wolf vs pig vendetta. But at the same time I was left wondering if they shouldn't have had clearer villains. The Grimm has to deal with reawaken fairy tales characters but at some point you need a big heavy.

[maczero]

The last episode was quite a quality jump. Loved the wolf vs pig vendetta. But at the same time I was left wondering if they shouldn't have had clearer villains. The Grimm has to deal with reawaken fairy tales characters but at some point you need a big heavy.

I'm pretty sure it was implied that a big bad would be coming in the bee episode.

[Phil Clark]

The last episode was quite a quality jump. Loved the wolf vs pig vendetta. But at the same time I was left wondering if they shouldn't have had clearer villains. The Grimm has to deal with reawaken fairy tales characters but at some point you need a big heavy.

I suspect that the "big bad" is the Police chief. He is behind a lot of the cases going on now, and he is always in control. So he doesn't show himself for what he actually is, whatever that might be.

[PiratesPensSteelers]

I don't know if I missed it in the show, but why is that people can now all of the sudden tell that the dude is a Grimm?

Like the big bad wolf in the beginning didnt pick up on it, the bears, goatboy, etc.


Now it seems like people know.

[Phil Clark]

I don't know if I missed it in the show, but why is that people can now all of the sudden tell that the dude is a Grimm?

Like the big bad wolf in the beginning didnt pick up on it, the bears, goatboy, etc.


Now it seems like people know.

It hasn't been explained, but I do believe that when he sees them for what they are is when they can then sense that he is a Grimm. Until that time, they are both oblivious to their positions. Maybe in the moment when they lose control and he can see them for what they are they can also access an ability to sense his power as a Grimm.

[dupersuper]

The reputation has to come from somewhere, and so far I do not see from where.

Generations of Grimms hunting generations of your family isn't enough?

[Libaax]

The last eps has been better and this series needs more Grimm history,training,hunting for Nick to improve and clear big baddy.

I hope he starts killing the bad monsters soon. Like the blond, the boss will be clear enemy to kill hopefully.