Once Upon A Time (ABC)

[Winter Wraith]

Unlikely - assuming a quasi-medieval setting - the closest they would have would be the printing press. The typewriter was invented mid-19th century.

K thanks! I haven't watched Pinnoccio since I was little and kept remembering him on a typewriter. I figured was I was crazy, but just needed reassuring.

[Tracer Bullet]

You know, thinking about it, I'm especially bothered by the Rumple/Belle romance. Aside from the mucking with the fairy tale, why is Belle's love capable of changing him while his son's love was not? I thought this show liked to play against these kinds of tropes, but "true love" can only be in a heteronormative romantic relationship apparently. Filial love means jack shit.

[snarkbunny]

You know, thinking about it, I'm especially bothered by the Rumple/Belle romance. Aside from the mucking with the fairy tale, why is Belle's love capable of changing him while his son's love was not? I thought this show liked to play against these kinds of tropes, but "true love" can only be in a heteronormative romantic relationship apparently. Filial love means jack shit.

It implies romance but not necessarily heteronormative. Also, we have seen cases where True Love's Kiss fails to work.
Most of the tales involving children saving their parents is usually done with a quest for a cure, like magic water. Hmmmmm. I wonder if Lake Nostos water would have worked on Rumple as well?

Frankly, I don't believe that the Blue Fairy told Bae the truth. I suspect there were other ways for Bae to remove the curse from Rumple. The question for me is what is the Blue Fairy up to?

[90'sCartoonMan]

Well, that smirk she hid from Gold when he asked her about what August wanted before she told Gold the lines about August's father, makes me think she is up to something. Also the way she told Bae she was on the "right" side. Somehow, I don't think she is all sweetness and light.

Damn sneaky nuns...can never trust 'em.

She should totally use the Bale Batman voice.

She'd have to top Alison Brie's, which is no easy feat.

You know, thinking about it, I'm especially bothered by the Rumple/Belle romance. Aside from the mucking with the fairy tale, why is Belle's love capable of changing him while his son's love was not? I thought this show liked to play against these kinds of tropes, but "true love" can only be in a heteronormative romantic relationship apparently. Filial love means jack shit.

Not necessarily. I mean, look at Emma herself. Her strongest relationships are with her mother and her son, and those are the people she loves the most and fights hardest for.

[batGRRRl4ever]

I think it would be a stroke of genius to defy expectations and return everyone to fairy tale land at either season 2 or 3 and have our main characters continue to fight Rumplestiltskin, deposed Queen Regina, and her mother the Queen of Hearts from Wonderland. Flip the concept of the flashbacks and show Emma's past prior to Storybrooke and everyone's return to magic land, and show Emma & Henry's struggle at adapting to this new world with new rules.

[Jared]

I think it would be a stroke of genius to defy expectations and return everyone to fairy tale land at either season 2 or 3 and have our main characters continue to fight Rumplestiltskin, deposed Queen Regina, and her mother the Queen of Hearts from Wonderland. Flip the concept of the flashbacks and show Emma's past prior to Storybrooke and everyone's return to magic land, and show Emma & Henry's struggle at adapting to this new world with new rules.

That could be interesting for a while, maybe not a whole season though. How much of Emma's life in the real-world is really going to be interesting enough for flashbacks?

[Winter Wraith]

Only two left. So exciting!

[AdamYJ]

Okay, so the little woodenhead was sent through with baby Emma. I hate to say it, but I can see why that didn't turn out well. I've read Collodi's book and that puppet is trouble.

Anyway, I think they may have tried the wrong tactic when trying to get Emma to believe. They put too much pressure on Emma by saying all of their happiness depends on her. It's not even really in the nature of fairy tales. You see, fairy tales aren't about saving the world and stuff. They're much smaller stories than that. Sure, great good may be done, but that's not really what the hero intends to do. Instead, it's about getting the girl. Or getting away from a bad parent. Or getting the money to support an old, ailing mother. It's about getting to the thing that will turn someone's life around. It's about the protagonist making their way to "happily ever after". Now, what Emma wants most and will turn her life around is getting custody of Henry. They should have used that somehow.

[christinereed]

Yeah, that's why you don't put a 7 year old in charge of a baby.

Instead of using Henry as a motivation, August wanted Gold to take that off the table. I guess he thought he had to be the one to convince her because of what Geppetto had told him. But, it would have worked better if he had stuck by her and told her the stories growing up, reminding her how important she was and that she'd break the curse one day.

[edhopper]

Some help please. My DVR cut off just when Emma contacted Henry on the Walkie-Talkie. What happened then?

David/Charming is a fool and a wimp. Even if he doesn't know that Regina was responsible for Margret (and how does he not?) he should know that Regina is not to be trusted by now. Most of the other characters did not have a 180 flip when they came to our world, but he seems to have become an indecisive coward..

[snarkbunny]

Some help please. My DVR cut off just when Emma contacted Henry on the Walkie-Talkie. What happened then?

David/Charming is a fool and a wimp. Even if he doesn't know that Regina was responsible for Margret (and how does he not?) he should know that Regina is not to be trusted by now. Most of the other characters did not have a 180 flip when they came to our world, but he seems to have become an indecisive coward..

Emma asked Henry if he wanted to live with her as his mother, and when Henry said yes, she started driving and told Henry they were leaving Storybrooke.

Given Mary Margaret isn't talking to David, I don't think either she or Emma told David they suspected Regina being responsible for the framing. As far as I can tell, Mary Margaret, Snow, Gold,Henry and Sydney are the only ones who know besides Regina.

Besides, I think David thought it was just a momentary impulse that Regina would be embarrassed about later.

Okay, so the little woodenhead was sent through with baby Emma. I hate to say it, but I can see why that didn't turn out well. I've read Collodi's book and that puppet is trouble.

Anyway, I think they may have tried the wrong tactic when trying to get Emma to believe. They put too much pressure on Emma by saying all of their happiness depends on her. It's not even really in the nature of fairy tales. You see, fairy tales aren't about saving the world and stuff. They're much smaller stories than that. Sure, great good may be done, but that's not really what the hero intends to do. Instead, it's about getting the girl. Or getting away from a bad parent. Or getting the money to support an old, ailing mother. It's about getting to the thing that will turn someone's life around. It's about the protagonist making their way to "happily ever after". Now, what Emma wants most and will turn her life around is getting custody of Henry. They should have used that somehow.

I think you are right about it being the wrong tactic, but that is exactly the sort of thing Pinocchio would do. I think what Emma wants most is a family and a home, and getting Henry is part of that.

Also, what sort of "preparations" did the Blue Fairy need to do? That, plus the smirk last week, proof that she lies, and I really think she set up Gepetto to send Pinocchio through instead of Snow (what did she think a parent would do when she basically says his child will likely be turned back into a lifeless puppet and they will just have to hope breaking the curse will reverse that.) That plus setting Rumple up to create the curse last episode makes me wonder what she is up to.

[marshal99]

Some help please. My DVR cut off just when Emma contacted Henry on the Walkie-Talkie. What happened then?

spoilers:

Emma decided to leave storybrooke with Henry and the episode ended when they drive away

end of spoilers

Think there's far more to the curse than meets the eye , why else would Gold actually be willing to help August and Emma to break the curse since 1) he has yet to find his son and 2) in fairytale land , Gold/Rumpel is behind bars.

[snarkbunny]

Think there's far more to the curse than meets the eye , why else would Gold actually be willing to help August and Emma to break the curse since 1) he has yet to find his son and 2) in fairytale land , Gold/Rumpel is behind bars.

I think Gold wants the curse broken so he can search for his son because I don't think Gold can leave Storybrooke until the curse is broken.

Also, I'm guessing that the breaking of the curse does not automatically send them all back to fairytale land.

[AdamYJ]

I think you are right about it being the wrong tactic, but that is exactly the sort of thing Pinocchio would do. I think what Emma wants most is a family and a home, and getting Henry is part of that.

Also, what sort of "preparations" did the Blue Fairy need to do? That, plus the smirk last week, proof that she lies, and I really think she set up Gepetto to send Pinocchio through instead of Snow (what did she think a parent would do when she basically says his child will likely be turned back into a lifeless puppet and they will just have to hope breaking the curse will reverse that.) That plus setting Rumple up to create the curse last episode makes me wonder what she is up to.

True. In my experience, Pinocchio never seemed to think things through. The Disney version is more innocent. The Collodi version is more of a trouble-maker. However, neither of them seemed to use their head for much. Both versions of Pinocchio just seem to follow their first impulse.

[batGRRRl4ever]

I think Gold wants the curse broken so he can search for his son because I don't think Gold can leave Storybrooke until the curse is broken.

Also, I'm guessing that the breaking of the curse does not automatically send them all back to fairytale land.

You bring an interesting possibility that season two everyone may get their memories back but STILL be in Storybrooke/our world, and on one front a band gets together to find Baelfire, and on the other Storybrooke townspeople have to both convince their compatriots to wait and not leave and also keep back outside/our world developers from coming in.