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    Quote Originally Posted by RLAAMJR. View Post
    If you're talking about why the Dora Milaje are still working with BP, I don't think Storm should be jealous. Storm knows BP loves her. The Dora MIlaje are also strong women who eventhough they love BP but they know their limits.
    Agreed...with Storm as queen d DM could b Ororo's personal army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamorsTrident View Post
    That's because the pairing was random and made little sense giving people little reason to care.
    No it's because they just don't care. Just like I said. This is one of the only site where people rant and rave, on and on about this. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    No it's because they just don't care. Just like I said. This is one of the only site where people rant and rave, on and on about this. Just saying.
    I'm pretty sure fans of the characters care. My local comic shop brings up the Storm and BP relationship almost every other 3 to 4 weeks. With the discussion ending in "Why are they still together?" .Your just upset about how the relationship went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    "Nothing there" implies that nothing had ever come before... which we both know isn't true. X-men: World's Apart is CANNON (flawed or not, it's cannon). And Storm's dislike of the Dora, her desire to see them disbanded = cannon. You can't pick and choose which parts of cannon is real or false.
    Cannon or not it really doesn't matter. You are still wrong. Her desire to see them disbanded was countered also in the Panther books, where she has zero problem with them. She only knew two them. She did not know the entire order. She had zero problem with Queen Divine Justice or Okoye and they had zero problem with her. She had no problem with Aneka. You should really work for Fox news with your level of spinning. lol


    If T'Challa tells Storm he doesn't want fawning male concubines round her... sure... I have no problem with that ;)
    But see is ignorance. They are not concubines. Stop projecting your fears unto them. And he would not do that, because it would be weak. I don't see Storm doing it either.


    Correct me if I'm wrong... does T'Challa kiss a Dora in the Client? Does he hold her? Does he comfort her? I'll happily admit I have only read the two Priest TPB's available (still very sad his step-mother wasn't actually a villain ) so no, I don't know how the story ends... that doesn't change what happens DURING the two arcs I have read.
    Dude you really need to stop. Because as I said you don't know what you are talking about...the Client does not give the whole story. Unless you want to count being tricked by Mephisto...which is the reason that occurred. But you wouldn't know that...because you are steady yapping on and on about something you have not read. That's kind of stupid. Why do you keep going on about it. That's not what happened.

    So yes it does change what you read. Because that was not what was going on. I mean even a young child would understand this, yet you don't. Smh. lol

    All I ask is next time you (who knows better) shouldn't make sweeping statements others (who know less) can easily call "bullsh*t" on.

    But this is about the glorious Storm... and her (hopefully) soon to be GLORIOUS divorce. It's a shame so many writers couldn't make this pairing work. It had everything going for it... but it never worked. Rushed, forced, diluting Storm, separation; take your pick... frankly they never stood a chance. End it Marvel, PLEASE end it!
    This post shows you don't know what you are talking. Really, you have two TBP and not the complete story, yet you continue to rant on an on about the Client...and that is not where her story ends and even explains what was going on..in the manner which Priest wrote. In flash back style...so if you don't know and you have not read it...why do you continue to post nonsense. Saying it over and over does no make you right. You are still wrong.

    And all this about Divorce who cares. I ready said I really don't care if they divorce. So begging for a divorce is pretty moot and sort of pathetic. It doesn't hurt T'challa. it doesn't hurt Storm. You have always been pretty suspect only posting about him... in a effort demonize him.

    Try to make sense. No about of smiley faces, bold, different fonts and italics are going to make you right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverZeal View Post
    Wait-a-minute....BP/Tchalla has never had any "relationship" with any DM other dan dem being his guards...d 1 a offer as apparent evidence from Priest's Client run severly outta context. Any1 who read it knows dat Memfisto was all up in BP's grill playing mind trix & mental distractions upon which a single fanatic uv obssessd DM tuk advantage of BP/Tchalla & kissd him much 2 Memfisto's intentions as well. BP/Tchalla willfully regaind his mental 4titude aware from Memfisto & repelld d fanatic DM away as well as was appalld.

    Based on dat rejection & appalled resentment from BP/Tchalla dis fanatic DM went on 2 bcum a villain calld MALICE whose sole mission was/is 2 kill any1 2 whom BP/Tchalla's heart falls 4 as a lover.


    In dat same Client run u so happily post as evidence Priest put it 2 print saying dat BP/Tchalla has only treatd d DM's as "ceremonial" 4 "political stabilty of Wakanda" as "most devoted royal servants" & has "never md demands of dem(in any exploitative manner b it sex or otherwise)" other dan 2 commit 2 their duties as d deadliest most elite royal guards of d Wakandan crown.

    4 mo info chek out real life DM in ancient Africa called d DAHOMEY AMAZONS

    Dahomey amazons:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahomey_Amazons





    Wonders of d African world

    http://www.pbs.org/wonders/Episodes/Epi3/3_cultr1.htmh



    Origins of d Amazons of Dahomey

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/3172178

    The Warrior Queens of Dahomey

    http://rainqueensofafrica.com/2011/0...ns-of-dahomey/

    AMAZONS OF AFRICA

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/ama/ama08.htm

    AMAZONS OF BLACK SPARTA

    http://www.amazon.com/Amazons-Black-.../dp/0814706789

    D African kings would never hv &/or demand sexual favors or relations with any of d all-female elite warrior guard both in d real world history as much as in BP/Tchalla's history.
    Agreed Zeal.

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    Guys, behave.

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    in the end who will care about the DM when they are finally divorced,hopefully he will take not only the Dora with him,but also all of his crazed fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    No it's because they just don't care. Just like I said. This is one of the only site where people rant and rave, on and on about this. Just saying.
    Technically, the ranting and raving also happens on Comicvine as well, and I have also seen it on Marvel.com too lol. Most aspects of Storm it seems has been very disatisfying and frustrating for Storm fans. With the marriage, if anything, I think it's more venting about how this relationship, with all it's potential, ridiculous retcons,etc. has been badly handled from the beginning to now, and Marvel editorial doesn't care. The past and current writers have given no reason for us (at least the Storm fans) to continue to be hopeful for some growth for Storm and T'Challa as a couple. We should just expect disappointment, and that is all we continue to get really. Jason Aaron's dialogue in AvX#2 is really not something I could see Storm saying to T'Challa (hell when have they had time to go to counseling???), but at this point, I am tired of waiting (has been several years now) and I, and obviously many others, want to see change, even if that means they end it.

    I mean BP had Liss doing a decent job with writing him in BPMWF....what has Storm fan's had? Bendis? Fraction? Marvel editorial wouldn't let this happen to Reed and Sue. Not even Scott and Emma, and Storm/BP>>>>>Scemma.

    We needed a Hickman or McDuffie on the BP title when this marriage first came in to play. I'm pretty confident the fans of either character would be kissing the ground these guys walked on, since they have shown how well they can write characters with great chemistry, in great stories and can stick to keeping the characters "in character". I was happy and hopeful when they first got married. I thought it was an opportunity for both of these characters to grow and become the black "Reed & Sue" of the Marvel U, but that didn't even come close to happening.

    Hudlin ruined their chemistry from the beginning, and drew them further apart toward the approach of Doomwar. McDuffie's work with them on FF was cool and uplifting but (RIP) unfortunately very short-lived. Doomwar, though a pretty good read, didn't help bring Storm and BP closer together, and failed on promises of "Storm" epicness that made Storm fans further hate how writers have handled her since she has been married. Fraction's simultaneous handling of her in Uncanny only added fuel to the fire (BP was hardly ever mentioned), with only a few good presentations of Storm during that time (i.e. - Curse of the Mutant's One-Shot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windrider View Post
    Technically, the ranting and raving also happens on Comicvine as well, and I have also seen it on Marvel.com too lol. Most aspects of Storm it seems has been very disatisfying and frustrating for Storm fans. With the marriage, if anything, I think it's more venting about how this relationship, with all it's potential, ridiculous retcons,etc. has been badly handled from the beginning to now, and Marvel editorial doesn't care. The past and current writers have given no reason for us (at least the Storm fans) to continue to be hopeful for some growth for Storm and T'Challa as a couple. We should just expect disappointment, and that is all we continue to get really. Jason Aaron's dialogue in AvX#2 is really not something I could see Storm saying to T'Challa (hell when have they had time to go to counseling???), but at this point, I am tired of waiting (has been several years now) and I, and obviously many others, want to see change, even if that means they end it.

    I mean BP had Liss doing a decent job with writing him in BPMWF....what has Storm fan's had? Bendis? Fraction? Marvel editorial wouldn't let this happen to Reed and Sue. Not even Scott and Emma, and Storm/BP>>>>>Scemma.

    We needed a Hickman or McDuffie on the BP title when this marriage first came in to play. I'm pretty confident the fans of either character would be kissing the ground these guys walked on, since they have shown how well they can write characters with great chemistry, in great stories and can stick to keeping the characters "in character". I was happy and hopeful when they first got married. I thought it was an opportunity for both of these characters to grow and become the black "Reed & Sue" of the Marvel U, but that didn't even come close to happening.

    Hudlin ruined their chemistry from the beginning, and drew them further apart toward the approach of Doomwar. McDuffie's work with them on FF was cool and uplifting but (RIP) unfortunately very short-lived. Doomwar, though a pretty good read, didn't help bring Storm and BP closer together, and failed on promises of "Storm" epicness that made Storm fans further hate how writers have handled her since she has been married. Fraction's simultaneous handling of her in Uncanny only added fuel to the fire (BP was hardly ever mentioned), with only a few good presentations of Storm during that time (i.e. - Curse of the Mutant's One-Shot).
    As always a reasonable post. But on Comicbookmovie.com folks don't seem to care and a few others I know of.

    T'challa at least is getting Hickman on board. Hopefully Storm is involved, otherwise it maybe Bendis for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weather Warlock View Post
    in the end who will care about the DM when they are finally divorced,hopefully he will take not only the Dora with him,but also all of his crazed fans
    As I said before, a divorce is fine to me. I'm also a Storm fan...and there are plenty of folks who do care about the Dora's, even if you don't. Us "Crazed" fans seems to get results don't we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    No it's because they just don't care. Just like I said. This is one of the only site where people rant and rave, on and on about this. Just saying.
    well, actually even my friends are like surprised when i told them she is married to BP which only a few of them know who BP is. (well BP wasn't always on every Avengers cartoons episode, avengers comics, his bp cartoon series wasn't aired here yet and Marvel stopped selling marvel trading cards which i've been missing to collect.)

    I think, we can say the x-men fans in general don't like the pairing.

    Then the avengers fans, I'm not sure if it's 50/50 or more of them like the pairing.

    I actually always see the BP/Storm marriage becoming a discussed topic because people are really expressing their feeling why they dislike the pairing and why other people like the pairing.

    But one thing i know is that most of them agree that the marriage story was rushed and feel the need of giving more good panels about their relationship. Though some have already gave up because of years of waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    As I said before, a divorce is fine to me. I'm also a Storm fan...and there are plenty of folks who do care about the Dora's, even if you don't. Us "Crazed" fans seems to get results don't we.

    In my opinion, they're more interesting to me than Shuri. If BP is very skilled at martial arts and technology, they should just make Shuri skilled on magic. That would make Wakanda more powerful! : )
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    i also made a thread, just to see the opinions of superherohype regular posters about their panel on avx#2:

    link: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=381969
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    As always a reasonable post. But on Comicbookmovie.com folks don't seem to care and a few others I know of.

    T'challa at least is getting Hickman on board. Hopefully Storm is involved, otherwise it maybe Bendis for her.
    Storm will be there too. Did you see the cover with Storm, IW and Black Panther (shuri)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    As I said before, a divorce is fine to me. I'm also a Storm fan...and there are plenty of folks who do care about the Dora's, even if you don't. Us "Crazed" fans seems to get results don't we.
    Actually going by your track record, you don't. Not trying to be mean or bust your balls here but let's just go back a year. The premise behind Liss' work was constantly criticized and even though it ended on a high note how long did you all spend questioning what was going, how it was going to work? Storm going and joining the Avengers, you thought BP would be joining the team and he was not. We can keep going here. You won't know the results until you actually see and read them. I would think after all the disappointment you have experienced this year regarding BP and Storm that you would at least wait a bit before you gloat.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLAAMJR. View Post
    well, actually even my friends are like surprised when i told them she is married to BP which only a few of them know who BP is. (well BP wasn't always on every Avengers cartoons episode, avengers comics, his bp cartoon series wasn't aired here yet and Marvel stopped selling marvel trading cards which i've been missing to collect.)

    I think, we can say the x-men fans in general don't like the pairing.

    Then the avengers fans, I'm not sure if it's 50/50 or more of them like the pairing.

    I actually always see the BP/Storm marriage becoming a discussed topic because people are really expressing their feeling why they dislike the pairing and why other people like the pairing.

    But one thing i know is that most of them agree that the marriage story was rushed and feel the need of giving more good panels about their relationship. Though some have already gave up because of years of waiting.
    I agree with your assessment. You nailed it, keep posting like this. It's good to read you writing about your opinions about Storm in a broader way than just simple one liners. I like reading what you write especially when it's a little deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegastorm View Post
    Storm will be there too. Did you see the cover with Storm, IW and Black Panther (shuri)?

    Actually going by your track record, you don't. Not trying to be mean or bust your balls here but let's just go back a year. The premise behind Liss' work was constantly criticized and even though it ended on a high note how long did you all spend questioning what was going, how it was going to work? Storm going and joining the Avengers, you thought BP would be joining the team and he was not. We can keep going here. You won't know the results until you actually see and read them. I would think after all the disappointment you have experienced this year regarding BP and Storm that you would at least wait a bit before you gloat.

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    It's not "gloating" T'challa is a member of the Avengers right now. It's not what I wanted, but it something. And when you say You don't I you are sadly mistaken. YOU assume that you know what I really care about or what I have wrote Marvel and creators...I hardly EVER wrote Marvel about the marriage. I haven't since 2009...so again...you are pretty clueless to assume. Don't make yourself look foolish. Most of the thinks I personally asked for were occurring in MWF/MDMA. Sorry to bust your bubble.

    My biggest issues are and were being addressed. Most Dangerous Man alive?...I sent Liss and Marvel the scan of Sam Wilson saying it. I had no idea they were going to turn that into his tag. I sent Liss Priest synopsis and run down of his entire run, so he would have reference... Peak Human...I wrote list about T'challa being Peak Human without the Herb, and it was noted and also about nerve strikes, which he preformed on Luke Cage...and guess what it happened. So again...you are clueless to what I actually care about. Don't assume, because you are wrong.

    I wanted T'challa and Storm on the Avengers. But not under Bendis. You guys can enjoy Bendis when he comes to the X-men.

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