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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettJett View Post
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    "This Grant Morrison Guy" is the best writer in mainstream comics, so maybe you should know what you're talking about before professing to know more than him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveGus View Post
    I used to think that a Grant Morrison Wonder Woman would be a catastrophe. Morrison for me has always been one of those Vertigo-stable writers who seemed to fancy themselves so much cleverer than the people who wrote brightly colored stories about stalwart heroes from the 1940s through the 1960s. I don't really trust any of those writers with American superheroes; not Morrison, not Moore, not Gaiman. From my perspective, they saw their mission to inject "complexity" and po-mo weirdness and irony into the stories; and to the extent they are allowed to do that they become distasteful. Morrison's remarks about how he failed to understand Wonder Woman did not build confidence, nor did his portrayal of the character in Final Crisis.
    You do realize Morrison has a book titled "What Masked Vigilantes, Miraculous Mutants, and a Sun God from Smallville Can Teach Us About Being Human." Superheroes mean a lot to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveGus View Post
    I used to think that a Grant Morrison Wonder Woman would be a catastrophe. Morrison for me has always been one of those Vertigo-stable writers who seemed to fancy themselves so much cleverer than the people who wrote brightly colored stories about stalwart heroes from the 1940s through the 1960s. I don't really trust any of those writers with American superheroes; not Morrison, not Moore, not Gaiman. From my perspective, they saw their mission to inject "complexity" and po-mo weirdness and irony into the stories; and to the extent they are allowed to do that they become distasteful. Morrison's remarks about how he failed to understand Wonder Woman did not build confidence, nor did his portrayal of the character in Final Crisis.

    I don't deny his talent, though. If he thinks he can strike a good balance between whimsy and kinkiness, I'm eager to read it. Anything would have to be better than the zombie book with the cancelled character still in the title.
    Well if Morrison and the others you mention are too complex for your tastes...there's still Geoff Johns for you.

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    Morrison loves super heroes unironically. This should be evident from All Star Superman and his Batman work.
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    Yeah, he's post-ironic.
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    I'm intrigued but this might not be a an instant buy.
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    I wonder is there will be an uproar with the amount of "sex" he plans to insert (pun unintended) in the title and character.
    From wot I gather of the interview...I would like to see if those adults who are complaining that Azzarello's WW is no longer for kids/little girls would be "Here, sweetie, read this...here is a wonder woman you can emulate".

    I'll certainly give it a shot, depending on that artist. Morrison writing is neither here nor there with me so the artist has to be phenomenal.
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    “Superman when he began was, he could throw people out of windows. You used to see him drop-kicking guys into the ocean, and obviously that would kill you,” he said. “You know Batman had a gun and sometimes he would shoot people. But those things weren’t intrinsic to the strips, you know, you could take out those elements, you could take out the murder element of Superman and Batman and the strips still worked. But when you took the sex out of Wonder Woman, the thing went flat. And the sales died immediately after Marston himself died and never ever recovered.”

    Morrison, who revealed in 2009 that he’d like to tackle Wonder Woman after his Batman mega-arc — September’s Action Comics relaunch may have gotten in the way — said he’s immersed himself in feminist theory, and incorporated some of those ideas into the project, “but completely took them in a different direction.”

    “Wonder Woman needs sex definitely because, you know, again as I said in the book [Supergods], they kind of transformed her into a cross between the Virgin Mary and Mary Tyler Moore,” he said. “This Girl Scout who had no sexuality at all and the character’s never quite worked since then. In the way that Superman’s supposed to stand for men but at least he’s allowed to have some kind of element of sexuality, Wonder Woman is expected to stand for women without any element of sexuality, and that seems wrong.
    Oh man I cannot wait to read about Wonder Woman having sex. Its been long over due. I just hope its not Steve Trevor or Hal Jordan.
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    Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post


    Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post


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    Wow, two realizations.

    1) Grant Morrison masked looks kind of like Jon Hamm.

    2) Jon Hamm would be the PERFECT Doctor Hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    Oh man I cannot wait to read about Wonder Woman having sex. Its been long over due. I just hope its not Steve Trevor or Hal Jordan.
    I hope it's Steve and Mike Schorr. I'm pretty sure she already had sex with poor dead Trevor Barnes and Steve Trevor, but I won't mind it happening again. She's over due, like you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imraith Nimphais View Post
    I wonder is there will be an uproar with the amount of "sex" he plans to insert (pun unintended) in the title and character.
    From wot I gather of the interview...I would like to see if those adults who are complaining that Azzarello's WW is no longer for kids/little girls would be "Here, sweetie, read this...here is a wonder woman you can emulate".

    I'll certainly give it a shot, depending on that artist. Morrison writing is neither here nor there with me so the artist has to be phenomenal.
    You can have sexual innuendo without having full sex depicted. Many of the X-men I read when I was younger was full of it (especially lesbianism and SM), and I didn't notice them until late in my teens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    Oh man I cannot wait to read about Wonder Woman having sex. Its been long over due. I just hope its not Steve Trevor or Hal Jordan.
    This came off as weird.

    "Can't wait to see what kind of f**kin WW does."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    You do realize Morrison has a book titled "What Masked Vigilantes, Miraculous Mutants, and a Sun God from Smallville Can Teach Us About Being Human." Superheroes mean a lot to him.
    Which the first half is a cool read but very biased against Marvel and being very DC happy (then again, don't bite that hand that feeds you) and not delving that amazingly into Superheroes that I expected.

    Then second half is my problem, it seemed...very money oriented, as he looks at this business more in money/corporate way than an actual creator, maybe I misinterpreted but that's how it came off. Also, the certain times people are more punk orientated or hippy orientated and when those days hit, he writes books like that so they can appeal to readers. Interesting but a bit to loopy for me but then again this is Morrison we're talking about.

    Overall, enjoyed the book but read the first half and then for the second half just watch his documentary.
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