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    ...if one were considering self-medicating for a medical condition with a compound known to be safe but not actually approved for use to treat the condition in question, how might one go about determining the appropriate dose?
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    Start with very, very small amounts and take stock each hour. Increase the very, very small amounts until the desired effect is reached.
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    I myself basically go through life hardly knowing much about anything, eventhough I insist on being happy, but I don't mind seeking help outside of my own shell, which I don't mind since as such I may find it being useful in the long run.

    I personally know a few people trained in the medical profession and sometimes they even buy me drinks or dinner. I know two separate doctors, a surgeon, a radiologist, an blond apothecarian plus a bunch of nurses both as midwife-personnel and therapists. They all use other doctors both as separate colleagues, other than themselves and some if not most of their partners do as well.

    I'm guessing such having to do with behavioral patterns and other treatments becoming to potentially conflict or interfere with getting proper results most aptly.

    So I would say much would depend on the bigger picture for all aspects or factors to work as best they could, which would also determine much towards any dose or compounds to being proper.

    So I'd advise to seek out the best possible advice, like common doctors or apothecarians or potentially trustworthy neighbors or relatives - there might be cookies or treats involved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    ...if one were considering self-medicating for a medical condition with a compound known to be safe but not actually approved for use to treat the condition in question, how might one go about determining the appropriate dose?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Brady View Post
    Start with very, very small amounts and take stock each hour. Increase the very, very small amounts until the desired effect is reached.
    What Jeff Brady says is true.
    It does depend on the substance of course as to how much is actually safe though and sometimes it can be difficult to tell.

    Also, there are likely a few good articles on the internet that can give you a pretty accurate idea of where to start and what you should never do with said product. I would strongly suggest looking into those. Make sure to stay away from the overly conservative government statements and the overly liberal druggie beliefs though. Try to find something that is well respected and has good factual information and you should do just fine.

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    One could look on the internet for dosage suggestions, assuming the compound is at all regulated and potency could be trusted, of course.

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    You could always use a test rat to see what happens ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Algren View Post
    One could look on the internet for dosage suggestions, assuming the compound is at all regulated and potency could be trusted, of course.
    unless we are talking about the green, i wouldnt go with the, try a little, then try a little more policy.

    For many, many, many reasons that is some of the worst advice.

    You arent qualified to judge effects of each dosage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamone View Post
    unless we are talking about the green, i wouldnt go with the, try a little, then try a little more policy.
    He did say "known to be safe" so I'm thinking we're not discussing something he's likely to overdose on or become addicted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald M. View Post
    He did say "known to be safe" so I'm thinking we're not discussing something he's likely to overdose on or become addicted to.
    bananas are known to be safe but you can still do harm to yourself if you over consume.

    With an unnamed condition, and treating it with an unnamed compound, i dont think its responsible to give him advice along the lines of suck it and see.
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    Ian's a very intelligent guy. I'm sure he's well aware of the dangers and pitfalls of such "blind advice". I wouldn't worry too much about him.
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    Okay, I'm thing of dosing myself with Nicotinamide Mononucleotide because it appears to reverse the effects of diabetes in rats.

    The problem is the rats were injected with the stuff whereas I'd be taking it orally so it wouldn't just be a matter of scaling up the dosage to allow for the difference in body mass.

    I don't even know if it'd penetrate the stomach lining if taken orally.

    Still tempted to try it but the one place I can find online that sells it charges $105 for a minimum quantity and isn't even clear what that capacity is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    Okay, I'm thing of dosing myself with Nicotinamide Mononucleotide because it appears to reverse the effects of diabetes in rats.

    The problem is the rats were injected with the stuff whereas I'd be taking it orally so it wouldn't just be a matter of scaling up the dosage to allow for the difference in body mass.

    I don't even know if it'd penetrate the stomach lining if taken orally.

    Still tempted to try it but the one place I can find online that sells it charges $105 for a minimum quantity and isn't even clear what that capacity is.
    get proper medical advise
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    Where's the fun in that?
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    Got good insurance? Ambulance bills can pile on. Just from experience.

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    Hypothetically speaking... I wouldn't mind being a guinea pig, but not the first guinea pig. Before I did it, I'd find out if other humans have done it, and what their results were. A small amount might help diabetes, but then, it might also seriously mess up your blood sugar.

    And I would have qualified outside observers to assist me on such an experiment.
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