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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrewulf View Post
    So I really dont get this. Loeb and Mcguinness who couldnt get Batman/Superman out on time are now working on two books?

    Also let me get this right. They are working on a anew Nova book but instead of Marvel aking the chance to advertise the book instead they are advertising point one book. Dear god those poor arrogant bastards, they really can;t admit they are wrong about this point one thing are they. Even in the face of utter defeate by DC's number 1s.
    You don't have it right. They are working on a 4 issue miniseries and a short story in an anthology book. That's all we know right now. And Marvel's been doing these anthology books for new status quos for a while now, since Civil War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libaax View Post
    What the heck is Point one thing really ? Just another gimmick like it looks.
    The Point One initiative is supposed to a drive to provide easy jumping on points for new readers. This book is an extension of that by being a prologue of sorts to upcoming stories and events. It's a bit like DC's Countdown to Infinite Crisis one shot form a few years back. This is the text from the Previews Catalogue:

    POINT ONE
    Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS, JEPH LOEB, ED BRUBAKER, MATT FRACTION, DAVID LAPHAM, FRED VAN LENTE, CHRISTOPHER YOST & MORE!
    Art by ED MCGUINNESS, BRYAN HITCH, TERRY DODSON, ROBERTO DE LA TORRE, RYAN STEGMAN, JAVIER PULIDO & MORE
    Here are SEVEN all -new stories that set the stage for everything coming your way in 2012 from the biggest names in the comics industry.You CANNOT miss this. Catch a tease of the biggest change to the Marvel Universe in over 35 years !
    64 PGS./ Rated T+ …5.99


    Based on the page count in Tom's statement (I'll pass on making the obvious observation this time around), it seems like it'll have no ads.

    Does anyone know what big change happened to the Marvel Universe 35 (or more) years ago? Giant Size X-Men and Jean Grey's transformation to Phoenix are two things off the top of my head. Anything else?
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    So if Nova is coming back what about Starlord and Thanos since you can't really get one back without the other two?

    And are they coming back in the Nova book or will it happen in Annihilators. I kind of think that it will somehow be the big twist (only not so much now) of Earthfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiasm View Post
    I've got no opinion on Loeb as I've read very little by him but he can't possibly do an event any worse than Bendis or Fraction. Bendis did an amazing (especially in hindsight) build up for Secret Invasion only to deliver one of the worst and boring events in comic history. And Fear Itself is ironically named since Marvel should Fear whats its becoming if this passes for a must read event. Its time for some new blood running the events.
    You have Loeb to thank for Ultimatum and Onslaught. So yes, he can write events so bad you wish you could un-read them. I hate to say it but since his son passed away Loeb has barely been able to write a coherent sentence, let alone a decent and coherent story. I wish a company would just give him a monthly stipend out of loyalty and ask him not to write anything anymore because he's just ruining his legacy putting out such awful material these days. Same goes for James Robinson at DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superbeast View Post
    You have Loeb to thank for Ultimatum and Onslaught. So yes, he can write events so bad you wish you could un-read them. I hate to say it but since his son passed away Loeb has barely been able to write a coherent sentence, let alone a decent and coherent story. I wish a company would just give him a monthly stipend out of loyalty and ask him not to write anything anymore because he's just ruining his legacy putting out such awful material these days. Same goes for James Robinson at DC.
    Loeb did Onslaught? Its been quite a while since I've read those X-men issues but I'm pretty sure Scott Lobdell was the main guy who did it. And I never read Ultimatum beyond seeing the scan of Blob eating the Wasp which I found to be kind of awesome actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiasm View Post
    So if Nova is coming back what about Starlord and Thanos since you can't really get one back without the other two?

    And are they coming back in the Nova book or will it happen in Annihilators. I kind of think that it will somehow be the big twist (only not so much now) of Earthfall.
    Is it Rich Rider that's returning or another Nova? I think a universe collapsing on you should keep you dead, but what do I know? lol

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    Cosmic and Nova fans, like you're not the same people! Hear me!

    Yes it's Jeph Loeb. Yes the quality of his writing can be questionable and eyebrow-raising at best.

    But really, let's just accept it. We've known that he's going to work on the cosmic stuff for quite some time now, or at least had suspicions about it. Now it's happening and there's really nothing we can do about it.

    So let's just buy the cosmic books. Give them our support as Marvel is putting on of their currently most commerically successful writers on our little corner of the MU and hope for the best. By which I mean hope that it's going to be like his Red Hulk book, which is enjoyable after turning of your brain, instead of his Ultimatum book, which is stupid and disgusting.

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    If there is no planet flying around with a goatee I might buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova2814.1 View Post
    The Point One initiative is supposed to a drive to provide easy jumping on points for new readers. This book is an extension of that by being a prologue of sorts to upcoming stories and events. It's a bit like DC's Countdown to Infinite Crisis one shot form a few years back. This is the text from the Previews Catalogue:

    POINT ONE
    Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS, JEPH LOEB, ED BRUBAKER, MATT FRACTION, DAVID LAPHAM, FRED VAN LENTE, CHRISTOPHER YOST & MORE!
    Art by ED MCGUINNESS, BRYAN HITCH, TERRY DODSON, ROBERTO DE LA TORRE, RYAN STEGMAN, JAVIER PULIDO & MORE
    Here are SEVEN all -new stories that set the stage for everything coming your way in 2012 from the biggest names in the comics industry.You CANNOT miss this. Catch a tease of the biggest change to the Marvel Universe in over 35 years !
    64 PGS./ Rated T+ …5.99


    Based on the page count in Tom's statement (I'll pass on making the obvious observation this time around), it seems like it'll have no ads.

    Does anyone know what big change happened to the Marvel Universe 35 (or more) years ago? Giant Size X-Men and Jean Grey's transformation to Phoenix are two things off the top of my head. Anything else?
    Glad this solicit got re-posted. I remember a while back something being said about the "biggest change in 35 years". I started looking for the quote the other day to include in another post, but couldn't find it. I thought Axel or Tom had said it in an interview, but I hadn't been able to track it down. All along it was in this solicit.

    My first thought was Giant Sizes X-Men as well. That shook up the X-Men and launched them in being the most popular franchise comics for 20+ years. I know the quote is all hype, but to throw something like that out there, it still has to be pretty big.

    As far as Loeb goes, I highly doubt he's writing the next event. Dude has way too much on his plate with the TV and animation departments to helm a wide line story. X-Sanction is his big part for next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronMagnus View Post
    In Loeb's next event?

    Juggernaut eats Songbird.
    Nova eats Gamora, or Nova eats Nita! Doh!!!

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    First of all, I'll buy it, no matter the writer and artist. This is the first time we will be getting a Nova title less than five years after the previous one was canceled.

    Also, we have no idea who the writer and artist will be. There are a number of writers and artists on this point one, 64 page issue. Loeb may not be the writer for Nova's section. And if he is, he may not write the new series.

    And McGuinness's cover - he has to draw a massive star on the helmet. He does not draw anything small.

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    Loeb and McGuiness ARE the writer/artist for the Nova section. Wishful thinking won't change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40yearoldnovafan View Post
    Nova eats Gamora, or Nova eats Nita! Doh!!!
    he needs to eat something. he's skin and bones in that cover.

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    Why does everyone assume there will be a new Nova series? He could just be part of something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog View Post
    Why does everyone assume there will be a new Nova series? He could just be part of something else?
    Because it's been hinted repeating by the Editors during the recent ComicCons, IIRC.......

    Still, whether it's his own series (again) or him joining a "Cosmic" Team; it'll be great for Nova to be back in the MU (regardless of who the Creative Team will be......although I agree with the majority about wanting DnA back for the Human Rocket, but I'm willing to give Mr. Loeb a try.)

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