Between Barack and a Hard Place: Ultimate US Elections 2012 Thread

[Paradox]

worstblogever shows what gets my goat:

Hey, guess what? The original 2012 Elections thread hit 5,000 posts. So we will likely need it to continue from here in this thread, which is "Between Barack and a Hard Place- Ultimate U.S. Elections 2012 Thread II."

Primaries are pretty much over.

Two candidates enter, one candidate leaves.

By my last count, it's at least five men enter, but no one wants to talk about anyone but two of them.

Granted, theyre not much to talk about, but it's the "only two" mindset I object to.

[Cavemold]

Hey, guess what? The original 2012 Elections thread hit 5,000 posts. So we will likely need it to continue from here in this thread, which is "Between Barack and a Hard Place- Ultimate U.S. Elections 2012 Thread II."

Primaries are pretty much over.

Two candidates enter, one candidate leaves.

Mickey mouse is running to. It's 10k posts....

[Paradox]

It CAN be. IIRC, they said it was up to "us" if we wanted to go at 5k or 10k. Not that I was ever clear on who exactly "us" is.

[FalconX2000]

Well yes he did approve of the one I was talking about. It had one of those annoying "...and I approve of this message" or however it goes.


Havent' seen them. Nothing wrong with Barry being a one term president though.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...-quotes-obama/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=H3a7FC0Jkv8

This was the ad. Obama was quoting McCain saying "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose". Romney's campaign presented that quote as if Obama was the one who'd originally said it.


In general though, I don't believe Romney's problem really is that he'd be an extreme conservative (though it's possible he's campaigned so long for the right wing primaries that he's convinced himself of what he's saying). Besides dangerous deregulation and extending the Bush tax cuts for millionaires, I don't think he'd be hard charging on social issues.

Romney doesn't have Obama's vision. Romney's after the job, not the good he could do with it. His would be a shallow presidency, full of the endless consultation that Republicans notoriously like to generally accuse Democrats of but lacking in greater conviction or leadership. Romney probably wouldn't have wrecked the country if he'd beaten Gore in 2000 instead of Bush, but right now calls for more than what he can offer, and he'd get unfair credit for the good stuff that Obama has done for the economy and healthcare system.

[worstblogever]

I thought the new limit was 10,000?

First I've heard about it. I've still seen a lot of "chat" threads around the CBR Forums getting shut down at 5,000 posts.

It CAN be. IIRC, they said it was up to "us" if we wanted to go at 5k or 10k. Not that I was ever clear on who exactly "us" is.

Guess we'll find out next time a mod is by.



Until then,

[worstblogever]

The latest electoral map poll from RealClearPolitics.com shows that Obama has a prospective 253 electoral votes right now, to Mitt Romney's 170.

115 electoral votes remain listed as toss ups, meaning, Obama needs 17 of those 115 to win. Either Florida, or Ohio (two states which currently show a slight lead for the president) alone would push him over the top.

For Mitt Romney to win the election, he would need to get 100 of the 115 electoral votes from those toss-up states, and would need to win at least 6 of the remaining 9 states to even have a chance. He currently only has leads in Missouri and Arizona. That would make the final electoral count 347-191. Barring a major windfall, Barack Obama the Democrats look to be hanging on to the White House.

[the4thpip]

The latest electoral map poll from RealClearPolitics.com shows that Obama has a prospective 253 electoral votes right now, to Mitt Romney's 170.

115 electoral votes remain listed as toss ups, meaning, Obama needs 17 of those 115 to win. Either Florida, or Ohio (two states which currently show a slight lead for the president) alone would push him over the top.

For Mitt Romney to win the election, he would need to get 100 of the 115 electoral votes from those toss-up states, and would need to win at least 6 of the remaining 9 states to even have a chance. He currently only has leads in Missouri and Arizona. That would make the final electoral count 347-191. Barring a major windfall, Barack Obama the Democrats look to be hanging on to the White House.

But what if Romney makes a John Wayne/Jesus/Taylor Swift hybrid from a genetics lab his running mate?

[worstblogever]

But what if Romney makes a John Wayne/Jesus/Taylor Swift hybrid from a genetics lab his running mate?

Then he'll potentially lose a lot of the religious right vote for a sixth day violation. They don't screw around with cloning/stem cell research.

[o1pickleboy]

Then he'll potentially lose a lot of the religious right vote for a sixth day violation. They don't screw around with cloning/stem cell research.

But if he used it to clone Reagan it would have been gods will and Obama would be toast.

[worstblogever]

But if he used it to clone Reagan it would have been gods will and Obama would be toast.

Depends on whether or not the Reagan cloned would be suffering from Alzheimers like the original or not, I reckon.

[Paradox]

To be honest, I think even Zombie Reagan would be horrified by this current GOP crop, and distance himself from them.

[Darrell D.]

The Reagan worshippers love to invoke his name, without a clue of what he actually did in office.

[Paradox]

They keep saying "Reagan", but damned if what they say doesn't sound more like "Eisenhower".

[worstblogever]

The Reagan worshippers love to invoke his name, without a clue of what he actually did in office.

They keep saying "Reagan", but damned if what they say doesn't sound more like "Eisenhower".

Romney sure isn't the second coming of Reagan. He makes no stances on foreign policy, whatsoever, and Reagan was too smart to say something as stupid as, "I'm not concerned about the very poor," in front of a microphone.

[Darrell D.]

Romney sure isn't the second coming of Reagan. He makes no stances on foreign policy, whatsoever, and Reagan was too smart to say something as stupid as, "I'm not concerned about the very poor," in front of a microphone.

Although Reagan did show his issues with race with the 'welfare queens' comment.
Let's not forget, this is a dude that didn't want a civil rights bill for some reason. And was anti-union despite having been president of the SAG back in the 50s. And, was more than willing to help out the HUAC in Hollywood.