Between Barack and a Hard Place: Ultimate US Elections 2012 Thread

[the4thpip]

I think he would win higher percentage as a Senator or the VP then as the current incumbent. Obama was a candidate many voted for in 2008 now he is the lesser of two evils..

Actually, analysts back then were stunned that there was actually a candidate who was NOT considered "the lesser of two evils" and who got young people and minorities seriously passionate about politics for a change.

edit: I think that may be what you meant, but I could not really parse your sentence.

[Darrell D.]

These are both lies.

Nope, fraid not.
I'm sure someone who cares can bring up the bill that Ron Paul put forth when he was a Congressman, and the fact that he has said things in the past that are very, very, very racist, or at least insensitive to race.
It's okay to like him, though, even if he is morally bankrupt.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

These are both lies.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ron...-marriage-but/

Paul’s conflicted congressional record on homosexual issues reflects his commitment to federalism across-the-board. He voted to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” after previously supporting the policy. But he also opposed federal “hate crimes” legislation and criticized the Supreme Court’s 2003 Lawrence v. Texas case for overriding state anti-sodomy laws.

In 2004, Paul said on the House floor, “If I were in Congress in 1996, I would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, which used Congress’s constitutional authority to define what official state documents other states have to recognize under the Full Faith and Credit Clause, to ensure that no state would be forced to recognize a ‘same sex’ marriage license issued in another state.” The same year, he co-sponsored the Marriage Protection Act, which would have removed judicial challenges to DOMA from federal courts’ jurisdiction. (The Marriage Protect Act passed the House, but not the Senate.)

[Darrell D.]

Here's a nice list of Bills Paul has sponsored or Co-sponsored.
You decide what he stands for.
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11...-congress.html

[the4thpip]

This is cute...
GOP candidate Xmas
http://vimeo.com/33792768

[Darrell D.]

H.R.7955
Latest Title: Family Protection Act
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-22]

Title V: Domestic Relations - Prohibits Federal preemption of State laws relating to child or spousal abuse, or juvenile delinquency. Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds for the operation of any programs dealing with such problems.

Defines "child abuse" as physical maltreatment, and psychological or emotional neglect. Excludes from such definition discipline or corporal punishment applied by a responsible parent or an individual authorized to act in the place of such parent.

Grants tax-exempt status to organizations which provide care and treatment for victims of child or spousal abuse and to organizations which care for runaway children.

Requires federally-funded abortion and venereal disease treatment centers to notify parents of unmarried minors that such minors have requested an abortion, contraceptives, or are undergoing treatment for a venereal disease.

Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

H.R.7955
Latest Title: Family Protection Act
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-22]

Damn it Darrell ... he's a DOOOCTTOOOR....

[Iangould]

You should probably also have bolded this bit Darren:


[QUOTE]Defines "child abuse" as physical maltreatment, and psychological or emotional neglect. Excludes from such definition discipline or corporal punishment applied by a responsible parent or an individual authorized to act in the place of such parent.[QUOTE]

So physical and mental abuse is A-OK provided it's carried out by a parent.

[FalconX2000]

I think this demonstrates that despite the seemingly eternal campaign, big past mistakes don't just fade away.

Remember, Gingrich had those mass campaign staff resignations in June. Supposedly, they had a problem with Gingrich not spending enough time to build a campaign. Gingrich went off on a lengthy cruise vacation just before the resignations. He also seemed to be following the Sarah Palin model of using a national campaign as a stepping stone to personal profit (books, TV, etc.). Now, he's suffering from not building up the grassroots/retail politics level of his campaign, because they didn't get enough signatures.

Rick Perry might be paying for past mistakes as well. He's an intellectual lightweight. So his campaign tried to avoid the fray by having him enter late. On one hand, Perry would've gotten his ass kicked in even more debates if he'd entered earlier. On the other hand, it's harder to build a campaign with less time.

And it's pretty bad that both Gingrich and Santorum may both live in Virginia.

Gingrich's campaign demonstrates its incompetence again by promoting a write-in campaign, when write-ins are prohibited in the Virginia primary.

Gingrich's campaign has compared his failure to register for the Virginia primary to Pearl Harbor.

http://politica.gather.com/viewArtic...81474980950907

[the4thpip]

Gingrich's campaign has compared his failure to register for the Virginia primary to Pearl Harbor.

http://politica.gather.com/viewArtic...81474980950907

It was a big flop and Ben Affleck did not get naked?

[the4thpip]

Gingrich has said his 1st wife filed for divorce, but court documents appear to show he's the one who wanted out: http://on.cnn.com/ugnsuP

[o1pickleboy]

Gingrich has said his 1st wife filed for divorce, but court documents appear to show he's the one who wanted out: http://on.cnn.com/ugnsuP

Hence the reason Gingrich is pledging to go after the courts, they are his moral enemy.

[the4thpip]

Christmas gift for Obama: For the first time in half a year or so, the Gallup daily tracking poll gives him a net positive approval rating.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

[o1pickleboy]

Christmas gift for Obama: For the first time in half a year or so, the Gallup daily tracking poll gives him a net positive approval rating.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

The real reason for the numbers change is Sarah Palin drank to much eggnog stopped suppressing her jungle fever.

[inferno]

Congressman Paul has released a statement expanding on his opposition to Obama's plan to put Americans in concentration camps.