Between Barack and a Hard Place: Ultimate US Elections 2012 Thread

[Vibranium]

No wonder you have more posts than I do. More than half of them must be empty, useless co-signs.

my opinion of the voting public may be pessimistic, but I think it's more likely than not

[Kid Kamikaze10]

That's because you miss the point.

Whoa... Mold missed the point?

That's... That's impossible!!!


But in all seriousness, I'm sick of the "both sides are doing it" mantra. There is a serious intelligence deficit on one side, and the rest of the world can see it.

Why we seem to try to placate this lack of intellect, I have no idea. But we shouldn't do it here, and we don't.

[Cavemold]

Don't let the left stray you from the right path.

[Vibranium]

I agree that one side is more "stupid" than the other...but both are devious and have their own agendas

[worstblogever]

The idea that everyone is a hive mind on this forum is ludicrous. People drop the gloves on everything from if the X-Men writers used to load S&M subtext into everything, to who the best WR in the NFL is, to who was the candidate in the Republican primary who would be the worst choice to go up against Barack Obama in the general election.

If anyone can't find someone to agree with them, ever, I'll pull out the world's smallest violin for you, and play a song for someone who has opinions so ridiculous, no one will ever support them.

Can we get back to discussion of the election now, the one that I'm still glad Michael Savage isn't a candidate in to make it more of a circus?

Christ.

In spite of what FOX Nation is claiming about the president flip-flopping on the issue...

Which George Takei is all over calling bulls****, incidentally.


President Obama has spoken out in support of gay marriage. Which, was always his position.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ok in a weird facebook exchange today , I riled some obvious Republican (non-friends) up. Some commented how its A-OK to have business man Romney in charge. Of course once i mocked that Romney would laugh as he laid people off and how hard life was for him growing up as a missionary in France in his mansion and private chef ...its was fun. One guy posted a funny comment that Obama supporters like me was all angry. So I posted...

Why would we be pissed ? Our president ended a war we wasnt supposed to be in ...in Iraq. He gave the order to capture or kill Bin Laden that day. He also toppled a dictator in Libya without one man touching the ground. He also supported and saved GM in Detriot. Our president rocks baby.
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Then we got the usual Republican talking points. One of the most funny , silly ones was this posted that defies belief. One that will make ya laugh so hard.

Obama's core fan base is made up of mis-informed individuals who spew hatred, ignorance and racism.

[Vibranium]

I would have let GM die, but that's just me

[worstblogever]

Obama's core fan base is made up of mis-informed individuals who spew hatred, ignorance and racism.

This is something Maddow has pointed out that she sees Republicans try and calls the "I'm rubber, you're glue, argument". All of the things the opposition says about you, with facts or quotes to back up? Just go, "I know you are, but what am I?" and say them about the left, no matter how blindly false they are.

Like say, when Romney was claiming Obama had declared a "War on Women" a few weeks back, after all the criticism the GOP were facing for doing just that, at the state level, with legislation to make abortion harder to get, arguments in opposition to birth control, of all things, and eliminating equal pay for women.

[Shawn Hopkins]

See, this is the most annoying thing ever. There are people out there who are huge, obvious racists. So how do the deflect criticism for it? They scream "No, U the racist" at anyone in earshot and especially anyone who has the gall to notice and point out their racism. I am sick of it. Even in kindergarten we learned that "No U" arguments were to be pitied and laughed at.

[worstblogever]

See, this is the most annoying thing ever. There are people out there who are huge, obvious racists. So how do the deflect criticism for it? They scream "No, U the racist" at anyone in earshot and especially anyone who has the gall to notice and point out their racism. I am sick of it. Even in kindergarten we learned that "No U" arguments were to be pitied and laughed at.

Right. I mean, during the '08 election, stories were leaking out about GOP Headquarters where they had fake money printed up with Obama pictured on it drinking Grape Kool-Aid and eating KFC.

If I heard a Democratic Headquarters leaked out John McCain and Sarah Palin eating mayonnaise sandwiches on white bread, well, maybe the, "The Obama supporters are the real racists!" arguments might have made sense.

But no, the tales that kept coming out all were pretty one-sided on that front. Even the so-called victims of "Obama-hate" turned out to be frauds.

[longdecember]

Re: GM. I feel the same way. That is what natural law dictates. The good news is that Obama is going to finally unbase the tax code with his support for GLBT issues. I am not any of these things but I am way, way, way more smarter than Mitt Romney.

Cluephone: If you want to be president, in charge of the IRS, you should probably pay retail rates, not 14% and hide behind the skirts of your tax attorneys.

[the4thpip]

My translator software just told me to go fuck myself.

[Slam_Bradley]

Re: GM. I feel the same way. That is what natural law dictates. The good news is that Obama is going to finally unbase the tax code with his support for GLBT issues. I am not any of these things but I am way, way, way more smarter than Mitt Romney.

Cluephone: If you want to be president, in charge of the IRS, you should probably pay retail rates, not 14% and hide behind the skirts of your tax attorneys.

The bolded sentence brings the assertion in to serious doubt.

[longdecember]

The bolded sentence brings the assertion in to serious doubt.

I have really high IQ scores from all the major testing agencies but I pay a higher tax rate than romney, so you are probably right.

Can you reccomend a way to determine smartness?

[Darrell D.]

This is something Maddow has pointed out that she sees Republicans try and calls the "I'm rubber, you're glue, argument". All of the things the opposition says about you, with facts or quotes to back up? Just go, "I know you are, but what am I?" and say them about the left, no matter how blindly false they are.

Like say, when Romney was claiming Obama had declared a "War on Women" a few weeks back, after all the criticism the GOP were facing for doing just that, at the state level, with legislation to make abortion harder to get, arguments in opposition to birth control, of all things, and eliminating equal pay for women.

Yeah, 'The war on women' by the Democrats consisted, of what? A comment by a Democratic pundit about Mrs. Romney never working a day in her life?
Yeah, that really equals basically wanting to legislate a woman's reproductive rights completely out of existence. Or making sure them wimmen folk don't make as much as the men.
Next up: getting rid of the vote for women.
I would not be surprised if some backwards ass podunk in some shit district tries to introduce that legislation.