Between Barack and a Hard Place: Ultimate US Elections 2012 Thread

**FalconX2000** · 05-01-2012, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Vibranium

there are just as many of the "youth" who are ignorant yuppie scum who are scared of brown people

No, I'm pretty sure there are fewer.

**Justin D.** · 05-01-2012, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rasputin9977

LOl that's gold.

When one of the best things you're known for is calling Kanye West an ass, you know you're in trouble.

Really? That's one of the best things he's known for? I mean, he did actually do that (well, Obama called West a jackass, not an ass), but that's the thing you're going to say he's most known for? Forget the positive stuff he's done. Forget all the made-up shit about him that's way more well-known than something like calling a celebrity a low-level slur. What about the things he actually promised to do and hasn't done? Like shutting down Gitmo? See, if you're going to bother to criticize or slam someone, make it the least bit credible or even somewhat realistic. Obama is best known for calling Kanye West an ass? I don't think so. Hell, the majority of Obama's opposition probably don't even know who Kanye West is, so I doubt they know about a CNBC interview (I had to look that up) that happened two and half years ago. He's the frigging president. People know who he is and what he's done, even if they have to make the latter up.

Originally Posted by Paradox

I'm more offended that he's wearing a shirt with things named on it that were LEFT to him from the previous administration that he tried to fix, but had Republicans blocking him at every move. It implies that these are things he ignored, rather than trying and failing to get past his opponents.

Exactly.

**Paradox** · 05-01-2012, 10:18 PM

Yes, it's a shame he tried to propose things that could actually help people. Perhaps he should have just thrown lots of money at corporations, because that's been known to make things better, right?

**Rasputin9977** · 05-01-2012, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Justin D.

Really? That's one of the best things he's known for? I mean, he did actually do that (well, Obama called West a jackass, not an ass), but that's the thing you're going to say he's most known for? Forget the positive stuff he's done. Forget all the made-up shit about him that's way more well-known than something like calling a celebrity a low-level slur. What about the things he actually promised to do and hasn't done? Like shutting down Gitmo? See, if you're going to bother to criticize or slam someone, make it the least bit credible or even somewhat realistic. Obama is best known for calling Kanye West an ass? I don't think so. Hell, the majority of Obama's opposition probably don't even know who Kanye West is, so I doubt they know about a CNBC interview (I had to look that up) that happened two and half years ago. He's the frigging president. People know who he is and what he's done, even if they have to make the latter up.

Exactly.

I promise you bro, it's ok not to take things too seriously.

**StoneGold** · 05-01-2012, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Loren

I think it's highly inappropriate, but I don't think it's racist. That is, the imagery itself isn't; obviously none of us can speak to the personal inspiration of the creator.

The shirt and the quote combine to portray Obama as a domestic abuser, which is incredibly out-of-line. But it's not a race-specific stereotype. If he was wearing chains or had a gold tooth or the like, then that would be different. All the imagery here, though, applies equally to the stereotype of abusive white husbands.

Don't get me wrong, it's a double standard. But 400 years of slavery + 100 years of Jim Crowe + whatever else you want to throw up there = you can't show a black man in a political cartoon in that kind of light without looking like a racist douche.

**Paradox** · 05-01-2012, 10:42 PM

Yeah, dude, lighten up. It's perfectly OK to be racist, ignorant douchebag! It's funny!

**missing the eyerolly smiley a lot lately**

**Rasputin9977** · 05-01-2012, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by StoneGold

Don't get me wrong, it's a double standard. But 400 years of slavery + 100 years of Jim Crowe + whatever else you want to throw up there = you can't show a black man in a political cartoon in that kind of light without looking like a racist douche.

In this forum, it doesn't surprise me that the race card has been thrown around yet again but that image has nothing to do with race and everything to do with Barry Obama wasting tax dollars on lazy moochers.

**Paradox** · 05-01-2012, 10:50 PM

Racist or not, that opinion is unfounded nonsense.

**Rasputin9977** · 05-01-2012, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Paradox

Racist or not, that opinion is unfounded nonsense.

Oy. Once again, it's a joke about Barry Obama being a socialist. Here, familiarize yourself with jokes.
http://www.funnyandjokes.com/spread-the-wealth.html

**Cavemold** · 05-01-2012, 11:02 PM

When you say fix you mean deeper in debt right paradox?

**Paradox** · 05-01-2012, 11:05 PM

Perhaps you need a better definition of "joke". Your presentation needs work. Also you need to find out what "socialist" means, because President Obama isn't anything near that.

**Cavemold** · 05-01-2012, 11:08 PM

Proposing a huge healthcare plan isn't being a socialist ??? Good joke.

**Paradox** · 05-01-2012, 11:09 PM

As to debt, he's done what he had to do to at least try and clean up the mess he was left. Every idea he's had to reduce the deficit and debt have been screamed about by his opposition, even though they're demonstrably full of shit and his administration is right.