Between Barack and a Hard Place: Ultimate US Elections 2012 Thread

[USArmyParatrooper]

To a large extent it seems to be abotu giving hsi son a leg-up: supposedly he did a deal with Romeny whereby Paul Sr. splits the conservative vote in exchange for a senior job for Paul Jr.

So I guess that means Paul Sr. running in the General is out.

[7thangel]

This crap reminds me of the whole teleprompter mantra. It was nothing more than the Right trying to trivialize one of Obama's greatest strengths, his oratory skills. Whether delivering a speech, participating in a debate, doing a townhall meeting or a Q & A interview, President Obama is nuanced, well spoken and can speak substantively on a wide range of issues. So to combat that they perpetuated the myth that Obama is only good in front of a teleprompter, which is absurd.

President Obama has made many substantive arguments to the American people, but instead of addressing those head on they focus all of the attention like a laser on Obama playing the "cool" card.

well, you know what to expect from Rove and he's just getting started.

[mikekerrIII]

To a large extent it seems to be abotu giving hsi son a leg-up: supposedly he did a deal with Romeny whereby Paul Sr. splits the conservative vote in exchange for a senior job for Paul Jr.

I think the leg up is a side issue, he was preaching the same stuff before the kid was born

[Nick Soapdish]

I think the leg up is a side issue, he was preaching the same stuff before the kid was born

I'm not sure if that's quite right. He says that he got interested in Ayn Rand in the early 60s and Rand was born in 1963. He didn't first run for office until 1971. But I definitely agree that it's two-pronged. He's trying to develop his message and help out his son - which pushing his message will do.

[Spike-X]

Now, can you guess which one wants to double student loan interest rates, and which one doesn't?

[mikekerrIII]

Now, can you guess which one wants to double student loan interest rates, and which one doesn't?

Now neither of them do.

[carabas]

By this point, how can anybody possibly know what Romney actually wants to do? He'll just say anything.

[mikekerrIII]

By this point, how can anybody possibly know what Romney actually wants to do? He'll just say anything.

He wants to be President, I think the rest is trivia to him.

[Loren]

A few weeks ago, Slate's Dave Weigel ran a story that, just in passing, referred to Newark Mayor Cory Booker as a sort of New Jersey Jack Hawksmoor.

Less obscure, but still fun to see, is this headline of his from Friday: On Earth-2, is Rick Santorum Locking Down the GOP Nomination?

[worstblogever]

This crap reminds me of the whole teleprompter mantra. It was nothing more than the Right trying to trivialize one of Obama's greatest strengths, his oratory skills. Whether delivering a speech, participating in a debate, doing a townhall meeting or a Q & A interview, President Obama is nuanced, well spoken and can speak substantively on a wide range of issues. So to combat that they perpetuated the myth that Obama is only good in front of a teleprompter, which is absurd.

President Obama has made many substantive arguments to the American people, but instead of addressing those head on they focus all of the attention like a laser on Obama playing the "cool" card.

Speaking of which, the GOP are beginning to whine that the Obama campaign is "politicizing the death of Osama bin Laden for gains in the election".

Because, y'know, we're at the one year anniversary of the raid, so some of the news channels (not FOX) have mentioned it. And one campaign ad that points out Romney criticized the policy of unilaterally entering a country on a raid to kill him, which is exactly what needed to be done to get the son of a bitch.

[7thangel]

the Pres. Obama/Veep Biden campaign could bring it up everyday until the election and it still wouldn't come close to how much the repubs used 9/11 for political gain (and to silence any dissent)

[worstblogever]

I guess the even more hypocritical thing about the Republicans bitching about Obama politicizing the bin Laden raid...


I remember George W. Bush strutting around about the capture of Saddam Hussein and how much better it made the world after he was caught in late 2003, through the 2004 election.

[Darrell D.]

I guess the even more hypocritical thing about the Republicans bitching about Obama politicizing the bin Laden raid...


I remember George W. Bush strutting around about the capture of Saddam Hussein and how much better it made the world after he was caught in late 2003, through the 2004 election.

Yeah, but that was a white Republican, so that's different, duh.

[the4thpip]

Yeah, but that was a white Republican, so that's different, duh.

President Obama is using it to divide Americans, President Bush was using it to unite Americans against Democrats.

Completely different, morally.

[Nick Soapdish]

Yeah, but that was a white Republican, so that's different, duh.

I think that the more pertinent difference was that it was for their side. Not everything that the Republicans do is a dog whistle. They were bitching about Clinton plenty during the Dubya years, mocking his concern over bin Laden and the bombing raids in Iraq to go after WMDs - only to reverse course once their guy was in office.

It's something that the Democrats do as well.