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[Kees_L]

but really, that's neither here nor there for this board.

I would assume not, I guess.

But then, you're the one bringing it up, you're the one taking the time and effort to be complaining about how you'd be disliking some DHP material apparently - with repeating yourself even?

no, unfortunately I thought some of it was below professional grade material. I simply expected better. I was let down.

it's not that I didn't like everything. it's that I thought some of it didn't deserve to be published.

And this, this opinion of yours here, or either your "expecting better", would such make it somehow a correct presumption that any of the material would not be deserving "professional publication", would you say?

Because I would not.

Plus you say you are "let down". Really? In your opinion, Dark Horse is in error for publishing Adams and Chaykin, as how they decided to be, obviously, whereas by doing so they'd effectively or either purposefully be sort of pooping into the faces of any comic book fans, or either even only just you, because of it?

Seems like reaching a dash or an aweful lot, I'd think. Since it'll be comics - you might like it or you might not, as comics may be diverse more rather than singular, also because DHP amounts to being an *anthology*, which would strife for proving diverse instead of singular too restrictedly?

And it still mainly strikes me as to being the case here, that you just wouldn't have been liking some of the issue too good, 's all. Which wouldn't need to be the end of the world, nor either anything much of a drama.

Although if anyone would need to get blamed for bringing *the pooping bit* into it, than that would be me, I can admit that readily.

[Mike Cross]

Kees, i get what Batman is saying here..i bought the 2 DHP with the Beasts of Burden stories in them and really struggled to read any of the other stories contained therein..a mixture of unassuming art and horrible colour work really is such a knock after years of only buying what i liked..it's led me to perhaps holding off from any further DHP as the price is so high for me to basically buy 7-10 pages of story. I commend the return of DHP but not for the stories that are involved within. Amateur hour is some regards. Chaykin may be a well regarded creator, but not my cup of tea.

[the goddamn batman]

Kees, all I was saying is I was pretty disappointed by the quality of work contained in the issue. no drama. no pooping.

Adams and Chaykin are excellent draftsmen, but the coloring on their work left a lot to be desired, in my opinion. for my taste.

the other stuff (Usagi aside) all felt pretty amateur to me.

no need to back and forth about it. was simply expressing my opinion of the issue.

[Kees_L]

Okay. No hard feelings. Or well... at least not concerning your posts.

I sincerely don't mind negativity, or strict opinions, but sometimes a post can incidentally be to leave some provocation into specifically more negativity - like from passing by posters - like inviting them to say:
"Hey I know where you're coming from! Because I bought a product the other day and it just really let me down, which is just the damndest thing!"

So I don't mind strong opinions, but I do mind people coming on the internet responding to any of our posts but not really, because they'd only be coming on for acting out their anger or self pity.

And somehow Mike Cross's post for example doesn't seem to leave any such, but the earlier ones seemed to be doing so to me.

And of course I do know what it's like seeing stuff in a comic I don't like, but really minding any such too much has never seemed to be gaining me anything. And there will just always be the possibiliy that either other people might like stuff better or how I would be looking at things as somehow prematurely.
As personal views might not need to become any larger than they'd be. Although that will be personal, I guess.

[Gary_B]

In a round about way these last few posts remind me that your local lcs can be a good resource in this kind of situation. You can flip through a copy and decide if it appeals to you. You can't do that when you buy from the Internet.

I would guess that any Mignola content in these DHP titles will get collected eventually so if that is all that appeals to you, you might as well wait.

[noble_enough]

I really enjoyed the HB story. I wish it was a bit longer, but I'm glad I got to see new Mignola art, good late Christmas gift.

Haven't read anything else in the DHP book yet, but mainly just got it for Mike's story. The rest is bonus backup material.

[Angilas-Man]

I've been loving DHP. Sure, there's good and bad in any anthology, but I've generally liked more and more of the stories in the book as it has gone on. I was already a big fan of Concrete, Beasts of Burden, Eric Powell, Usagi, the Mignolaverse, ect. - but this anthology has turned me on to new stuff like my new favorite comic Finder and the gorgeous Age of Reptiles. I'm also very intrigued by the Resident Alien serial and Skeleton Key stories in recent issues, and I even warmed up to Chaykin's crime saga (despite the terrible art).

[Kees_L]

Haven't read anything else in the DHP book yet, but mainly just got it for Mike's story. The rest is bonus backup material.

I'm gonna be the same. I ordered the issue, it'll be at my LCS awaiting me and anything besides the Mignola bit I'll consider a bonus.

As yet I only read DHP #4, which contains a Chaykin installment. And of Chaykin I consider myself a fan, eventhough I foremostly love his Men Of War, the Atlas Comics (like The Scorpion) both as the Star Reach Magazine stuff, The Stars My Destination, Iron Wolf, Fafhrd & the Gray Mouser), Warp Comics and the totally fantastic First! stuff, like American Flagg and Time Squared, which is all pretty old or early stuff.
Whereas his newer stuff, from 2000 or later - all of that seems rather Marvel-ly with very modern or generic-seeming coloring, more rather super digital seeming and as such sort of the opposite from the more natural or organic or artistic seeming Dave Stewart in my opinion.
But since it would still be Chaykin art, I take it all in as if Chaykin would be telling me: "Hey look, I did tasteful or artistic already before it would even have come in style yet."
I always suspect Chaykin of him wanting any comic to be just filled to the brim with styles or effects and designs at work.
Like he would be a bit of an 80s effects man as much as Stephen J Cannell (the A-Team both as MagnumTV series producer) or as much as Michael Bay or as much as Lady friggin' Gaga.
Like he wouldn't mind stuff looking excessive or tacky one bit, as long as anything would still be looking like something at least and preferably in a big way.
I never seem to like to be looking at stuff besides just inks and paint over pencils in a printed form - but then even Dave Stewart is all digital and all print has become effectively digital, with technically looking better than ever.
If there would be anybody capable of getting me to enjoy a tacky or digital or excessive looking comic it would be Chaykin, or either Arthur Adams.
(And Mignola or Darrow don't get mentioned in this because they could just never make anything to be looking tacky or below grade. They just couldn't, which would in itself be quite an ability to have I'd say!)

[Libaax]

It's pretty much a stand alone story. I mean, it helps to have read the previous Hellboy in Mexico stories but the opening pretty much gives you all you need to know about them if you haven't read them yet.

Which story is that ? An old mexico HB one shot ?

[Kees_L]

Which story is that ? An old mexico HB one shot ?

It would be either 'the House of the living Dead HC' which was recently released or the 'Hellboy in Mexico' one-shot from last year.
Check them out at the Dark Horse site or either their threads on here - provided the search function would be capable of providing them.

[Libaax]

It would be either 'the House of the living Dead HC' which was recently released or the 'Hellboy in Mexico' one-shot from last year.
Check them out at the Dark Horse site or either their threads on here - provided the search function would be capable of providing them.

I didnt know of the Mexico one shot but have seen House of Living Dead in the LCS.

DHP i start pulling this month and i guess the issue you guys are talking about are waiting for me in LCS.

I will pick it up and hope my first month of the anthology is a very good one.

[Middenway]

Preview of DHP #8. Obviously, beware of spoilers.

[Bosco685]

Preview of DHP #8. Obviously, beware of spoilers.

That artwork is fantastic!

[Middenway]

Is that... a Left Hand of Doom?

[the goddamn batman]

Awesome. The Massive looks great, too. I'll have to pick this up for both of these.