A Namor Family mini series in the future...

[CMBMOOL]

I mean there has already been a Spider-man like family in the 616 and a Wolverine family and even a Hulk family in their respective comics lately.

My question is will a Namor Family be next, given that all those close to Namor: Mariana, Namora and Namorita are alive in the 616 once more ?

Also now added is Loa of the X-men.

[The Black Guardian]

Loa?

Die, Earth scum!

[CMBMOOL]

Loa?

Die, Earth scum!

Alright, Loa too.

[Yaggi_Rck]

I don't get what's the idea.. Having a mini to tackle characters close to Namor??
I'd rather have a good Namor monthly with a nice political story. I mean, the character has so much potential (sadly, the las series wasn't any good)!!

[Groot]

Ugh, please no.
Namor's just not a family man.
He is a righteous prick and I love him for it.
I'll agree with Yaggi, give us a Namor monthly, political? Why not.

I also was a big fan of The Deep or whatever that creepy Namor mini was.

[The Black Guardian]

Ugh, please no.
Namor's just not a family man.
He is a righteous prick and I love him for it.
I'll agree with Yaggi, give us a Namor monthly, political? Why not.

I also was a big fan of The Deep or whatever that creepy Namor mini was.

Namor is a great family guy. See Byrne's awesome Namor series. Hey, Reed is a family guy and a huge self-righteous prick. It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive. In fact, being a self-righteous prick makes for better family stories.

I don't really have much of a bead on new Marinna besides the "Die, Earth scum." I'm not sure what she would bring. Does she even remember Namor? Does she remember Namor killing her?

Honestly, I don't see much point to having Namora and Namorita around. Current Namora is pretty much what Namorita should have been for years. Instead, Marvel wanted to play teenybopper with her and screwed her all up. With no Nova around, shipping her back to the past is probably best. But I guess Namora could have some closure with Namorita.

[Groot]

I do hate stories that involve any sort of time travel, not that time travel isn't interesting but it is always poorly managed.

Are the Family books aimed at younger audiences? Not like Marvel Adventures is it? I like my Namor moderately mature.

Haha, how they'll make a movie out of him is beyond me!

[kalorama]

I mean there has already been a Spider-man like family in the 616 and a Wolverine family and even a Hulk family in their respective comics lately.

My question is will a Namor Family be next, given that all those close to Namor: Mariana, Namora and Namorita are alive in the 616 once more ?

I'm pretty sure the answer to your actual question is "no." Namor himself hasn't been able to carry a solo series for a while, and I doubt that any of his "family" have the necessary audience pull to make much of a difference in that regard. Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Hulk got spinoffs to try and capitalize on their already existing level of audience reach, a level that Namor doesn't have.

No real business advantage to franchising a restaurant that can barely do enough business to keep its own doors open.

[Talisman]

Give it to Brubaker. I'm so over his Captain America, while it's still good, it's just time for a different direction, imo.

[SquidSquod]

Namor, Namora, Namorita - stupid character naming

Start with Namor mini first.. but they did some recently. Really what's needed is a good writer. Greg Pak, Fred Van Lente, or Peter David - are you free? Brubaker writing is too grounded.

[Rheged]

I don't get what's the idea.. Having a mini to tackle characters close to Namor??
I'd rather have a good Namor monthly with a nice political story. I mean, the character has so much potential (sadly, the las series wasn't any good)!!

The last series was good, if you liked a more fully developed character, instead of just the arrogant prick aspect of Namor. What wasn't good was the horrible artist merry go round the book was saddled with. Three artists and five inkers on a single issue??? After issue 2, I had to google every artist on the book.

I'm pretty sure the answer to your actual question is "no." Namor himself hasn't been able to carry a solo series for a while, and I doubt that any of his "family" have the necessary audience pull to make much of a difference in that regard. Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Hulk got spinoffs to try and capitalize on their already existing level of audience reach, a level that Namor doesn't have.

No real business advantage to franchising a restaurant that can barely do enough business to keep its own doors open.

Since the recent series was Namor's only chance in 15 years for a solo series, I don't really think there's any evidence that he can't carry a solo series. His previous solo series did fine. This last one was plagued by art problems, a horrible market, and some other issues. If he was given the same push and support as Joe Quesada's favorite characters, I'm certain Namor could do as fine if not better. Even without A-list creators, the book debuted strong enough to get a second printing.

That said, I agree. Given the sales performance of the last outing, I'd doubt Marvel would try a Namor "family book."

Ugh, please no.
Namor's just not a family man.
He is a righteous prick and I love him for it.
I'll agree with Yaggi, give us a Namor monthly, political? Why not.

I also was a big fan of The Deep or whatever that creepy Namor mini was.

Sub-Mariner The Depths? The one where he appeared like in FOUR pages in the whole mini-series? Uhn, no. It was a good story, but it wasn't 616 Namor and I'd rather my title character appear in more than 4 pages out of 100 pages.

I would, however, love to see a properly done book of political intrigue and maneuvering with Namor and Atlantis. Something in the epic fantasy vein, perhaps with some more of the magical background that was in the last series.

Namor is a great family guy. See Byrne's awesome Namor series. Hey, Reed is a family guy and a huge self-righteous prick. It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive. In fact, being a self-righteous prick makes for better family stories.

I don't really have much of a bead on new Marinna besides the "Die, Earth scum." I'm not sure what she would bring. Does she even remember Namor? Does she remember Namor killing her?

I agree. If Namor didn't have strong family ties to his relatives and his people, he wouldn't be the character he his.

I don't really want to see Marrina and Namor hooking up together again, especially with the relationship with Namora left sort of unfinished. But I'd love to see Namor and Marrina meet and ... 'resolve' some of those precise questions.

Start with Namor mini first.. but they did some recently. Really what's needed is a good writer. Greg Pak, Fred Van Lente, or Peter David - are you free? Brubaker writing is too grounded.

At this point, it's going to take more than a mini. Sadly, I think DC is doing a better job with Namor than Marvel. Just look at what Geoff Johns did with Black Adam and then Aquaman. Emperor Aquaman just needed some hair dye. DC made Aquaman an integral part of TWO events, then gave him a mini, and now an ongoing, all of which were done with some gorgeous art. What was the last event at Marvel that Namor played an integral role? That would be NONE. He didn't even appear in Secret Invasion or Siege or Chaos War, IIRC.

[kalorama]

Since the recent series was Namor's only chance in 15 years for a solo series, I don't really think there's any evidence that he can't carry a solo series.

Given his history and pedigree, I'd say the fact that he's only had one solo series in 15 years (which tanked) is a pretty good indicator that he can't carry a solo series.

His previous solo series did fine.

His previous solo series did just fine when it was being written and drawn by John Byrne (who was then near the height of his popularity) and then drawn by a rising superstar artist in Jae Lee. But once it no longer had A-list creators to prop it up, it dropped off.

[Rheged]

Given his history and pedigree, I'd say the fact that he's only had one solo series in 15 years (which tanked) is a pretty good indicator that he can't carry a solo series.

No, it's an indicator that Marvel didn't have a creator or editor interested in doing a Namor book. We've had Joey Q for 10 years, and I don't think it's a secret that he likes street heroes and the noir genre. While it would be possible to do a noir Namor book, he's anything but a street hero.

As for Namor's book tanking ... again, there's plenty of reasons for that, which I've stated, that have nothing to do with the character's ability to carry a solo series. It's not exactly a great market for new books, much less ones that get the shabby treatment Namor's did. Namor's had solo series in the Golden Age, the Silver Age, the Bronze Age, the 90s, and in the present. The character can clearly carry a series.

His previous solo series did just fine when it was being written and drawn by John Byrne (who was then near the height of his popularity) and then drawn by a rising superstar artist in Jae Lee. But once it no longer had A-list creators to prop it up, it dropped off.

Actually, Jae Lee was a complete unknown when he started on Namor, having only done an issue of X-Factor previously, IIRC. His stint on Namor was quite polarizing as he had a completely different style from John Byrne. He, and Haras' Atlantis fantasy story line (again, completely different in style from Byrne) had people bailing from the series. After most A-List creators leave a book, the numbers drop. Even so, after Bryne left at issue #25 the book did fine on the character alone for another 40 issues or so.

[Groot]

Sub-Mariner The Depths? The one where he appeared like in FOUR pages in the whole mini-series? Uhn, no. It was a good story, but it wasn't 616 Namor and I'd rather my title character appear in more than 4 pages out of 100 pages.

Wasn't really a yes or no statement, nor was I suggesting that they somehow make an ongoing out of the premise.

I just really liked it.

Just Namor keeping pesky surface dwellers from his realm, it was quite an awesome take on the character.

Being as not much is done with him I rather interesting interpretations every now and then instead of nothing at all.

I would, however, love to see a properly done book of political intrigue and maneuvering with Namor and Atlantis. Something in the epic fantasy vein, perhaps with some more of the magical background that was in the last series.

You mean like Game of Thrones underwater?
I'd read it!

[stelok]

Sure, why not hook Namor again with Namora, Namorita or Dorma as his wives?

Namora and Dorma are Namor's cousins AND lovers.

cousin incest in a royal family is nothing new. Many European and Asian royalty have married their cousins. The ex-prime minister Naoto Kan of Japan married his first cousin.