Did you think i was talking about you? No, i was talking about Jeph Loeb's Thor. Guy comes back, sees his girlfriend he gladly enjoyed cheating on dead, attacks Captain America because he's holding her corpse, then goes to slaughter Loki's army, Zarda is fooled by Amora to see Thor as Amora so she attacks him, but after she's defeated Thor wants to murder her, why? Thor doesn't do that to heroes, but yeah then Tony and the others just try to get him relaxed and it ultimately works out, but you'd think the Thor we've known for years wouldn't be such an whiny little goat turd.
Wyokid. Why are you disappointed with Hickman's first issue? What has Jeph Loeb done that's any better? Just wandering.
I'm also guessing he loves Michael Bay's Transformers series and hates Chris Nolan's Batman series because the former has tons of high scale action and the latter has too much character development and not enough senseless action.
By the way, nice signature
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Hickman never met an evil Reed he didn't want to write, huh? I like that he has taken no time at all to graft his own interests to the history of the title. There's political intrigue, but it takes the form of feuding fiefdoms instead of the black-ops betrayals of Millar's run. The scope of the action is appropriately huge, but against fantasy backdrops instead of Hitch's recognizable New York scenery. Then, of course, we have cryptic remarks about the world and the future that point toward the utopian theme that always seems to show up in a Hickman book. I'm in for #2.
He wasn't given the time to finish, for me the whole point of his run was to set things up for him and other writers.
He was given plenty of time. In three and a half years, he only put out about 25 issues. Sure, a lot of the delays were due to artists, but if he really wanted to finish his stories, he could have gotten a faster artist.He wasn't given the time to finish, for me the whole point of his run was to set things up for him and other writers.
But what did Loeb do that showed the Ultimates' development as a team? The only thing I can think of was when Cap rallied the guys against Loki in New Ultimates #3.Millar's seemed so scattered and less focused on the team as a whole and more on the relationships in the team, Loeb's seemed more focused on the team as a whole.
Last edited by wyokid; 08-26-2011 at 11:01 AM.
Yeah it's still unclear as to exactly how much of her is delusion to Pietro. SHe can still either be full on in his imagination, or someone (possibly even her) is making him see her.
I'd like to think that he's gone nutso. He's really shaping up to be a great villain on a different note than his father because if he is going nuts then he isn't just suffering from delusions of grandeur, like Magneto was. He's more deceitful and cunning.
The Ultimates was one of the first comic book series I read, back when I started in 2005. To this day, it still ranks as one of my absolute favourite comics of all time. I was 14 at the time and I imagine that's probably part of why it stuck with me so strongly. I loved it so much I double-dipped on trades and the omnibus when it eventually came out (sold off the trades afterwards). It's one of the first books I give to people to read when they ask me for superhero comics.
Now, as far as I'm concerned there is absolutely nothing that comes after Ultimates 2 #13. Ultimates 3 was terrible. It barely even resembled anything from Millar and Hitch's Ultimates. I didn't even bother with Ultimatum or New Ultimates. And the idea, to me, that someone could possibly suggest that Ultimates 3 was better than Ultimates 1 & 2 is just ludicrous. No, it isn't.
I also thought Millar's Ultimate Avengers was quite bad. But nothing like the atrocity Ultimates 3 was.
So when I read Ultimate Comics: Ultimates #1 yesterday, I finally felt like the original book I fell in love with had returned. This is The Ultimates. I can't wait to read more.
(Can someone help me out with what happened to Thor? I know Madureira redesigned him to be more like 616 version, as he did with everyone else, but didn't he get his tech costume and hammer back in Ultimate Avengers and Ultimate Thor? I much prefer that look to what he's sporting now. And hopefully Tony will get a new suit that isn't just a derivative of his 616/movie suit.)