Ultimately Off-Topic II: The Next Generation

[Drz]

Continue the scene and you get to the fun. Pyro getting his hand chopped off was awesome!

Yes because mindless violence is what we call awesome.

He just had his butler and and a sex tape of his traitorous ex-fiance was released to the public, I don't even drink and I would be drinking.

Someone ignored Ultimates 2 ending, nice. >_>

I watch cannibal and zombie films just for that, because I find it fun.

Oh i'll see your reaction when zombies eat Miles Morales and Jimmy Hudson.

You keep saying this and the emotional wuss was Millar writing him. Thor shouldn't be a hippie.

How was Millar's Thor a wuss? He helped the world, he didn't give a damn what the government told him, he forced them to help him with his mission and he exchanged his services withouth even full alliance, he took down atomic bombs and destroyed giant worms for fun while Loeb's Thor was just a selffish pig who wanted to snu snu his girlfriend who loved him, when he lost her he just agreed to sleep with Hela, instead of grabbing her by the neck and like a true Ultimate Thor: Making the demands.


When all of your family dies in front of you tell me how you feel.

He never stopped being himself.

Yes thats true, aslong as we ignore Loeb's writing, this is true.

The Ultimates should be like what Ultimates 3, Ultimatum, New Ultimates, and Ultimate Avengers were, wall to wall action! Hickman is delivering that.

And i already told you Millar's Ultimates (and Avengers withouth saying) provide more action and being also meaningful than what Loeb ever bothered to throw at us.

HAHAHAHAHA! He called them movies!

Ah an elitist snob stance where you find your view the right one with no explanation whatsoever, great.

[Sinx]

You guys see that there might be a new Star Trek series?

Holy shit! Awesome! This needs to happen!

[Balfro]

Holy shit! Awesome! This needs to happen!

I agree. 3 years between a Star Trek fix is too long.

[wyokid]

Yes because mindless violence is what we call awesome.

He was just about to rape her. One of my biggest guilty pleasures is the original I Spit On Your Grave, the remake was just not needed, I love revenge stories.

Someone ignored Ultimates 2 ending, nice. >_>

I wasn't ignoring it, I would have thought I wouldn't need to say it; he had it thrust back into his life, his reaction is valid.

Oh i'll see your reaction when zombies eat Miles Morales and Jimmy Hudson.

I read that, pictured it in my head, and smiled so I'm all for it. Zombies are always awesome.

How was Millar's Thor a wuss? He helped the world, he didn't give a damn what the government told him, he forced them to help him with his mission and he exchanged his services withouth even full alliance, he took down atomic bombs and destroyed giant worms for fun while Loeb's Thor was just a selffish pig who wanted to snu snu his girlfriend who loved him, when he lost her he just agreed to sleep with Hela, instead of grabbing her by the neck and like a true Ultimate Thor: Making the demands.

I found you description of Loeb's Thor a lot more interesting.

Yes thats true, aslong as we ignore Loeb's writing, this is true.

For me, the transition was seamless.

And i already told you Millar's Ultimates (and Avengers withouth saying) provide more action and being also meaningful than what Loeb ever bothered to throw at us.

Yes, in volume 2 of both books there was action. Hickman's and Loeb's throw you right into it.

Ah an elitist snob stance where you find your view the right one with no explanation whatsoever, great.

No, I have no reason to waste more time than I already have on them. I'm also in a good mood so I'm not in the mood for it either. i have an opinion you have one as well, I respect yours, you feel the need to argue me on everything, that is incredibly childish of you.

[Drz]

He was just about to rape her. One of my biggest guilty pleasures is the original I Spit On Your Grave, the remake was just not needed, I love revenge stories.

There is a difference between good story telling and shock values that Loeb was spinning all over Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum. Less in New Ultimates.

I wasn't ignoring it, I would have thought I wouldn't need to say it; he had it thrust back into his life, his reaction is valid.

It's valid because Millar's Tony was already healing but then Loeb decides to ignore that and have him depressed? Tony Stark has way too many embarrassing photographs to care about a sex tape.

I found you description of Loeb's Thor a lot more interesting.

So instead of being a powerful force of nature, he should be a whiny emo?

Yes, in volume 2 of both books there was action. Hickman's and Loeb's throw you right into it.

Ultimates begins with action in World War 2 and continues it's action steps from Avengers to Ultimates to Hulk to the final battle. Loeb throws dumb villains making a incredibly poor attack on the Ultimates that had no excitment whatsoever put onto it, just mindless action that serves no purpose except wasting pages.

No, I have no reason to waste more time than I already have on them.

So you make a comment and then back away instead?

I'm also in a good mood so I'm not in the mood for it either.

Well from what i've seen, it's not like you really do defend your position, you just say something is either horrible or awesome and never reason anyone why it is so.

that is incredibly childish of you.

Calling me childish when you take a snobbish stance againts something you dislike? Don't be ignorant.

[Balfro]

I recently watched I Spit on your Grave. I liked it. Anyone watch Frozen? Also a good suspense flick.

[wyokid]

Holy shit! Awesome! This needs to happen!

I agree. 3 years between a Star Trek fix is too long.

Will you guys be picking these up?

Star Trek #1



The adventures of the Starship Enterprise continue in this new ongoing series that picks up where the blockbuster 2009 film left off! Featuring the new cast of the film, these missions re-imagine the stories from the original series in the alternate timeline created by the film, along with new threats and characters never seen before! With creative collaboration from STAR TREK writer/producer Roberto Orci, this new series begins the countdown to the much-anticipated movie sequel premiering in 2012. Join Kirk, Spock and the crew as they boldly go into a new future! Up first, a drastic new envisioning of “Where No Man Has Gone Before.”

Star Trek #2



The lead-up to 2012's Star Trek sequel continues here! Kirk and Spock face off against one of their own when crewman Gary Mitchell is possessed by an entity of unfathomable power. The next chapter in the adventures of the Starship Enterprise, a creative collaboration with Star Trek writer/producer Roberto Orci!

Star Trek #3



The adventures of the new Enterprise crew continue in this re-imagining of the classic episode "The Galileo 7"! Mr. Spock finds himself in command of a stranded shuttle crew fighting for survival, in a tale featuring the new cast from the blockbuster STAR TREK film!

Then there's also the Star Trek/Legion of Superheroes crossover miniseries!

Also I highly recommend picking up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 that came out today, it is just like the old comics! AWESOME!

[wyokid]

There is a difference between good story telling and shock values that Loeb was spinning all over Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum. Less in New Ultimates.

I am all for shock value.

It's valid because Millar's Tony was already healing but then Loeb decides to ignore that and have him depressed? Tony Stark has way too many embarrassing photographs to care about a sex tape.

Loeb redeemed Tony for me, no one should move on that fast, it's inhuman and unrealistic.

So instead of being a powerful force of nature, he should be a whiny emo?

He wasn't emo and you provided nothing to show that he was emo.

Ultimates begins with action in World War 2 and continues it's action steps from Avengers to Ultimates to Hulk to the final battle. Loeb throws dumb villains making a incredibly poor attack on the Ultimates that had no excitment whatsoever put onto it, just mindless action that serves no purpose except wasting pages.

It was incredibly exciting for me. I don't find war exciting.

So you make a comment and then back away instead?

Well from what i've seen, it's not like you really do defend your position, you just say something is either horrible or awesome and never reason anyone why it is so.

Calling me childish when you take a snobbish stance againts something you dislike? Don't be ignorant.

I've told you why I hate the Bay films. Go through Ultimately Off-Topic, my blog, my Twitter, and my Rotten Tomatoes accounts. It's all there.

[wyokid]

I recently watched I Spit on your Grave. I liked it.

The original or the remake?

Anyone watch Frozen? Also a good suspense flick.

Which one? There is a 2004 one and a 2010 one

[Balfro]

The original or the remake?

I have no idea.

Which one? There is a 2004 one and a 2010 one

I dunno. It had the chick from Walking Dead in it.



I know about the Star Trek comics, but I meant video-related Star Trek. I'd take a TV series over the comics in a heartbeat.

[Drz]

I am all for shock value.

So you take more value of shock value than good story telling, why does Ultimates by Hickman remind you more of Loeb than Millar than? Seems you're just trying to convince yourself and continue on this Jeph Loeb thing like before.

Loeb redeemed Tony for me, no one should move on that fast, it's inhuman and unrealistic.

Tony Stark has had his heart broken a million times, if this was his condition everytime the guy would never have time to play superhero.

He wasn't emo and you provided nothing to show that he was emo.

He was a whiny little brat who kept crying and whining while everyone more or less used him, he ends up being so stupid that he only really attacks are the people he cares about. Hela uses him and he doesn't strike her, Loki uses him and he lets him make a fool out of himself. He was anti-social and had withdrawn himself from the rest of the planet, completely ignoring his own duties he agreed and just went to get used by Hela and Loki, it took his fuck buddy to convince him to go back. Anti-social behaviour and depression are "Emo" traits.

I've told you why I hate the Bay films.

No you have not. I do recall Jer telling me you hate mindless action, yet you love New Ultimates, Ultimatum and Ultimates 3 which exactly provide you mindless action, while citing you don't find meaningful action such as Ultimates 1 & 2 (yet somehow Avengers?) exciting.

If you wish to provide any reasoning and you cite you got these blogs and twitters, that means you are more than perfectly capable of either direct linking me or copypasting the text here preferrebly.

[wyokid]

I have no idea.

spoilers:

One has a guy's teeth pulled out followed by his penis being cut off and shoved into his mouth, the other one doesn't lol

end of spoilers

I dunno. It had the chick from Walking Dead in it.

Okay the one with Kane, I still have to watch that.

I know about the Star Trek comics, but I meant video-related Star Trek. I'd take a TV series over the comics in a heartbeat.

But the comics are reimagining the classics!

[Balfro]

Okay the one with Kane, I still have to watch that.

Kane? We are talking about the movie where 3 college students are stranded on a chairlift at a ski hill for a week, right? And there are wolves... And, you know, snow?

[wyokid]

So you take more value of shock value than good story telling, why does Ultimates by Hickman remind you more of Loeb than Millar than? Seems you're just trying to convince yourself and continue on this Jeph Loeb thing like before.

Because it is energetic, funny, actiony, and fun like Loeb's. I already said this.

Tony Stark has had his heart broken a million times, if this was his condition everytime the guy would never have time to play superhero.

Doesn't mean he doesn't have emotion, if it weren't for Loeb and Ellis i wouldn't care about Tony.

He was a whiny little brat who kept crying and whining while everyone more or less used him, he ends up being so stupid that he only really attacks are the people he cares about. Hela uses him and he doesn't strike her, Loki uses him and he lets him make a fool out of himself. He was anti-social and had withdrawn himself from the rest of the planet, completely ignoring his own duties he agreed and just went to get used by Hela and Loki, it took his fuck buddy to convince him to go back. Anti-social behaviour and depression are "Emo" traits.

That sounds like a character I want to read about.

No you have not. I do recall Jer telling me you hate mindless action, yet you love New Ultimates, Ultimatum and Ultimates 3 which exactly provide you mindless action, while citing you don't find meaningful action such as Ultimates 1 & 2 (yet somehow Avengers?) exciting.

Because a comic book doesn't take almost 3 hours to get to the end. I never said I didn't find meaningfull action exciting, I said I didn't care for Ultimates 1 and Ultimates 2.

If you wish to provide any reasoning and you cite you got these blogs and twitters, that means you are more than perfectly capable of either direct linking me or copypasting the text here preferrebly.

Twitter

Rotten Tomatoes

I assume you can find Ultimately Off-Topic by yourself.

[wyokid]

Kane? We are talking about the movie where 3 college students are stranded on a chairlift at a ski hill for a week, right? And there are wolves... And, you know, snow?

Kane Hodder, best known for his portrayal of Jason Voorhees.

RT's synopsis

A typical day on the slopes turns into a chilling nightmare for three snowboarders when they get stranded on the chairlift before their last run. As the ski patrol switches off the night lights, they realize with growing panic that they've been left behind dangling high off the ground with no way down. With the resort closed until the following weekend and frostbite and hypothermia already setting in, the trio is forced to take desperate measures to escape off the mountain before they freeze to death. Once they make their move, they discover with horror that they have much more to fear than just the frigid cold. As they combat unexpected obstacles, they start to question if their will to survive is strong enough to overcome the worst ways to die?