Spider-man is my favorite character and I truly don't understand a few things about all the controversy that is being caused by the introduction of Miles Morales.
First of all we've known for quite some time now that Peter was going to die and that he was going to be replaced by a new Spider-Man. I don't have the exact dates in front of me right now but considering that 4 issues of Ultimate Fallout have been released it has to have been at least a month now. I didn't see much rage or hatred, in fact most people thought it was a well written story in contrast to how things were handled with Bucky. The only new information we have is WHO is under the mask and NOW it's the end of the world, NOW it's a gimmick, NOW it's a Stunt? So my question is why is it so severe all of a sudden when the only new information we have is the new Spider-Man's age name and ethinicity?
The last point I want to make is that the Ultimate Universe is not the main Marvel line the "real" Peter Parker is still alive and well. So if you want to read stories about Pete they are there in every other medium you can imagine. As a fan of the Spider marriage one of the things that upset me the most was that it was a poorly written story and I now had nowhere to read about my favorite marriage in fiction. I consider myself a fair person and I feel like Marvel did it the right way this time. Peter had a tremendous ending, He saved Captain America, (his idol) He took down the entire Sinister 6 with a bullet in him, saved his best friends Johnny and Bobby and died peacefully knowing that he was able to save his Aunt. Now we have the chance to see the legacy that Peter leaves behind and how characters like Aunt May MJ Gwen and Kitty respond to this new kid running around in Peter's footsteps.
I don't personally like the fact that Peter Parker is dead in the Ultimate Universe but I'm excited about the stories that will come out of it. And this time I don't have to scratch my head and wonder what's canon and what isn't or just accept magic as the answer for everything. I can just read the new stories knowing everything I've read up until this point is still valid.
OMG! Marvel's a business!
OMG! Marvel cares about quality AND promotion!
OMG! There actually still IS a void of ethnic characters in comics!
The responses here are outrageous.
Its not publicity of all things that's going to kill the comic book industry, its the inane character idolatry that keeps fans from tolerating change outside of what's stored in their inner fan-fictions.
On topic, I think it's interesting that if I asked any of my non-comicbook reading friends what they thought about the black/hispanic Spider-Man none of them would have any idea what I was talking about.
I do, though, think it's a GREAT option for comic book readers looking to read about characters with a bit more ethnic diversity.
I'm just a fan who speaks their mind and is fair. If this was during OMD/BND or in the main 616 universe I would be with you carrying the pitchforks and gasoline but some of the arguments on here are plain ridiculous and thinly veiled. I actually made a thread on another site about how gimmicky death has become and used Ultimate Peter and Bucky as new examples. Other posters shot me down saying how well written USM 160 was and how Bucky got the short end of the stick. And in hindsight I agree with that. We have all complained about killing off characters because they just return anyway. Well it looks like this death was made for true change yet it's still being called a gimmick and a stunt. Go figure.
Last edited by Joe Acro; 08-07-2011 at 03:35 PM.
I think Marvel wants whatever will get more readers to read their books. (Obviously.) I don't believe, though, that diversity necessarily equates to better sales.
I'm, personally, not entirely convinced that Miles Morales creation was a move to create more diversity in the Marvel Ultimate U, as opposed to an opportunity to get some attention (by killing and replacing a "flagship" character).
And to be fair, if it was a stated move to "create diversity" it wouldn't be well received either.
I just don't get why people are so upset. The new Ultimate Spider-Man could've been Mike Molinari 17 year old Juice head from Seaside heights NJ who gets bitten by a radioactive spider while tanning. And decides to call himself the Spideration. Now THAT would be a Gimmick and STunt for the AGES!
Nope. He works for marvel and the moderators all kiss his ass.
Banned once...and still pissed about it. Well, okay...more like annoyed about it.
I don't agree with "Ultimate universe isn't the real universe".
It seems far more "real" to the mainstream public than ASM is, I can promise you that. From tv shows, to clothing to posters to trades in stores, to freakin' birthday cakes, USM is far more prominent and what happens there is a pretty big deal.
Last edited by RolandJP; 08-07-2011 at 12:37 PM.
"Until the Lion writes his own story, the tale of the hunt will always glorify the hunter." - African proverbs
BEBOP--"Roland = pinnacle of objectivity"
Cause outside of Cage, which doesnt get a good showing anyway, the teams are filled with white folks.The only title with the Avengers words in it that has some diversity is the extremely fringe Academy.
Why dont you end T'Challa's super hero tour with him joining the Avengers?
Seriously, why dont you get rid of Spider-man or Wolverine in one team and replace them with some color?
List at least 12 non white minority characters that were created before 2000 and were brought back and used for something other than to be killed off, depowered,maimed,or turned evil.