"How to save the Green Lantern Movie franchise WITHOUT a reboot"

[pariah-1972]

They gambled too much on a sequel. Hal has ONE major archvillian, and that's Sinestro.

HE should have been front and center as the villain of the first movie.

and Parralax is a non-entity with zero personality.

I think you pretty much hit it on the head.

Most people know who Sinestro is because of the Super-friends makes sense to have him "front and center" as the big bad in some capacity at least Parralax was only an excuse to have Jordan go rogue and then was retconned into some fear monster, but what do we really know about it? not much really and from what i've seen the movie didn't even try.

I'm not against using Hector Hammond in the movie especially if they would have had deleting Parralax and tied Sinestro and Hector together somehow.

I'm thinking Sinestro could have used Hector to attack Hal either because he hates earthlings and doesn't trust us or as a way to test Hal to see if he was truly worthy.



I also liked the comic book origin where he was dissecting Abin Sur and something happened to him although it could even work out that he got something off Abin Sur or his ship on purpose that gave him powers and possibley go mad.

[DeadXMan]

One has to wonder who they could get as John Stewart for this type of movie Will Smith? he's a great actor and is very popular but i can't see him playing an ultra serious ex marine.And he was already in another Super hero movie and unfortunately i don't think it blew up like it should have.

They said the same thing about Keaton as Batman and Evens as Cap.


But there leads to another problem. Playing it safe. Popular dose not = box office gold. just look at Tom Hanks recent flop. No Stewart needs to be played by baddest Mother F*cker in Space
or equal to his talents

[dupersuper]

Friday Box Office Goes 'Ape' Rising To $19M; Ryan Reynolds Flops Again: 'Change-Up' Sinking To $4.5M

"It's disappointing. We're kind of confounded by it," a Universal executive says

Seriously? You're confounded that no one wants to see a body switch comedy. Seeing Jason Bateman on the Daily Show I believe this movie might actually be good, but even Bateman knew to start by saying he realizes the premise is lame.

OH yes... He's got other enemies... but Seriously... Sonar?? the Shark??

I wouldn't say they suck, but they're certainly not challenging Sinestro as GLs arch villain. Just as Toyman, Prankster, Parasite and Silver Banshee, though they can be fun and have their place, are not going to take Luthors place.

DC fail to realize that when the majority of the public think of Green lantern they think of This Guy:

As much as I liked JLU, I don't think the "majority of the public" thought of much of anything when you mentioned GL.

One has to wonder who they could get as John Stewart for this type of movie Will Smith? he's a great actor and is very popular but i can't see him playing an ultra serious ex marine.

How about an ultra serious thoughtful architect?

And he was already in another Super hero movie and unfortunately i don't think it blew up like it should have.

It fell apart at the end, and I don't know what the critics thought of it, but I'm pretty sure it made a fair bit of $.

Most people know who Sinestro is because of the Super-friends makes sense to have him "front and center"

You mean most cartoon watching geeks who likely like comics already, not most people. Of the rest, those over 30 might kinda' remember him from watching when they were kids.

[phantom1592]

As much as I liked JLU, I don't think the "majority of the public" thought of much of anything when you mentioned GL.

Agreed.

Justice League was only on for 2 seasons... then it switched to JLU and he was a 'back up' character again.

Compared to the 40 or so years that Hal was the main GL, I think most people over exaggerate how much JS is in the public eye. Most people are going to thinkg the Daily show when the name is mentioned.

Not even counting the video games, crossover daffy duck cartoons, T-shirts etc... Hal is still advertised as Green Lantern.

Edit: Ok, I guess JS was in the Justice league heroes game... forgot that. I reskinned him to Hal VERY quickly ;)

How about an ultra serious thoughtful architect?

THANK you!!

It really bothers me when people talk about how JS is their favorite lantern becasue of JL, and then don't realize that's NOT how he's spent the first 30 years of his existence...

Marine is NEW...

You mean most cartoon watching geeks who likely like comics already, not most people. Of the rest, those over 30 might kinda' remember him from watching when they were kids.

That's pretty much where I know him from :)

though to be fair, First Flight, Duck Dogers, Brave and the Bold, JLU, Static Shock...

Just about anytime they bring in a GL story... Sinestro is always tapped to be teh bad guy.

[DeadXMan]

actually that was the chef complaint I heard froma couple of my non-comic book friends (one's 25 male the other was then 20 female)
leading up to the movie. "Green Lantern is a black guy, why is he white in the movie?

Yes, JLU was around only a few years but it is fresh to the audience.
who are now the targeted audiance.

[DeadXMan]

Edit: Ok, I guess JS was in the Justice league heroes game... forgot that. I reskinned him to Hal VERY quickly ;)

You racist son of a bitch

[pariah-1972]

[QUOTE=dupersuper;13601161]

Seriously? You're confounded that no one wants to see a body switch comedy. Seeing Jason Bateman on the Daily Show I believe this movie might actually be good, but even Bateman knew to start by saying he realizes the premise is lame.

Not only that but how many times have they put out a body switch comedy? And people still remember all that awfull ones that weirdo from SNL made.

Not to mention that i'm sure most people would rather wait for the DVD or Blu-ray if they would wanna see it (don't ask me why)

How about an ultra serious thoughtful architect?

The JLU version was an Ex Marine and that was the most popular version so much so they retconned the comic book John Stewart as being an Ex-marine.

It fell apart at the end, and I don't know what the critics thought of it, but I'm pretty sure it made a fair bit of $.

I think the critics probably agreed with you since that's how i felt.

You mean most cartoon watching geeks who likely like comics already, not most people. Of the rest, those over 30 might kinda' remember him from watching when they were kids.

a lot of people grew up on Super-Friends as kids but that doesn't mean they are or were comic book geeks since the show was very popular.

Thus showing why everyone thinks Aquaman is lame even tho he isn't.

[dupersuper]

The JLU version was an Ex Marine and that was the most popular version so much so they retconned the comic book John Stewart as being an Ex-marine.

Sadly, yes.

a lot of people grew up on Super-Friends as kids but that doesn't mean they are or were comic book geeks since the show was very popular.

Thus showing why everyone thinks Aquaman is lame even tho he isn't.

The show rarely portrayed him that way, those jokes started later.

[pariah-1972]

Sadly, yes.



The show rarely portrayed him that way, those jokes started later.

Sorry Duper but even when it was playing originally i had friends that were geeks that made fun of how lame the whole show was.

Most of the complaints i remember was the over the top narration tho.


I honestly don't think anyone came off that great i was always frustrated that it wasn't more like the Justice League instead of the Superman- Batman-Wonder- Woman- with- a- bunch- of- annoying sidekicks hour.

It was refreshing when they rebooted the show and made it less silly and brought in Cyborg and Firestorm .

[Blacksun]

actually that was the chef complaint I heard froma couple of my non-comic book friends (one's 25 male the other was then 20 female)
leading up to the movie. "Green Lantern is a black guy, why is he white in the movie?

Yes, JLU was around only a few years but it is fresh to the audience.
who are now the targeted audiance.

I wasn't reading comics when they annouce Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern. I first thing the same why they cast a white guy?

[phantom1592]

actually that was the chef complaint I heard froma couple of my non-comic book friends (one's 25 male the other was then 20 female)
leading up to the movie. "Green Lantern is a black guy, why is he white in the movie?

Yes, JLU was around only a few years but it is fresh to the audience.
who are now the targeted audiance.

I can't help but wonder though... should they have catered to these 'fans'?

John Stewart hasn't really had MUCH exposure as Green Lantern. He was always the back up character. The sidekick. He's bounced from book to book trying to find a place to fit in... Mosaic was probably his greatest success...

But when the JLU show started... he was ringless and in a wheelchair... and the JLU completely rewrote his whole character just for the show... He's been back for a while now... but he hasn't DONE anything here either... ONe of the chief complaints I heard about GL comics... is that Johns Nowhere around...



'But that's what the public knows...' Is hardly a justification for continuing that knowledge. By that reasoning, Joker was the one who killed Batman's parents... and Harvey Dent looked like billy dee williams.

I wouldn't have wanted Will Smith playing Two-face in Dark Knight... or even Batman Forever 'Becasue that's what the public remembers.'


The fact that they said ' "Green Lantern is a black guy, why is he white in the movie?' and not... 'Why is John Stewart White?!?!' says a lot.

[pariah-1972]

Ignorance is bliss till it hits the cold hard truth of reality.

[Zenstrive]

uhm...how to use this first movie to do a second one...and in the process redeem the first one?

Some wild ideas:

The fight with parallax+renegade guardian is DISSAPOINTING(parallax itself, too)and boring. But what happens, if in GL2, we learn this fight was a ...SETUP? When Parallax fights sinestro and the other lanterns, they make a DEAL, Sinestro convinces the guardians to do the yellow rings, and he will become leader of this new corps, and in exchange parallax obtains a corps who will make have fear the entire universe(more "food" for parallax, without having to actually take down the Green Lantern corps by itself...). And with this, we explain how parallax, a energy entity, can be taken down by the sun...because parallax was faking it, only burning the corpse of the guardian,and we won a temible parallax(who aparently has been destroyed in the eyes of the GLC), the changes made to the "mythos" become more explained , and actually made sense why Sinestro survives the fight with parallax and why he changes too wildly from cheering the power of the GLC, to want to change it for a Yellow Lantern Corps.

Oh, and parallax has to be an entity made of yellow energy...perhaps, with the visual appearance of what make feel fear to each individual(for one it has tentacles, for other, a lot of mouths etc etc).

P.D:My english can be...really bad(sometimes). So if something isn't readable at all,please, make me know.

This is radical and wonderful idea. I'd pay you 2 million bucks if I were DC Entertainment for this idea alone.

[DeadXMan]

I can't help but wonder though... should they have catered to these 'fans'?

John Stewart hasn't really had MUCH exposure as Green Lantern. He was always the back up character. The sidekick. He's bounced from book to book trying to find a place to fit in... Mosaic was probably his greatest success...

He was the Star of GL for nearly three years and the black dc super hero.

[Green Lantern wannabe]

As my name suggests, I'm a GL fan, but I didn't bother watching it, because of the negative hype that preceded it, and also because the storyline was too predictable. Last, but perhaps not least, I saw the animated feature, GL: First Flight, which was a predictable origin story, and I got a bit fatigued with same story over and over again.