Doctor Who thread III: Mad men in a blue box. Everything Whovian. (SPOILERS)

**marshal99** · 12-30-2012, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by 1505627

while an american who film would be bad, i would be interested in seeing an american made who spin off

We already had a american who spin off with that awful torchwood miracle day on starz,

**1505627** · 12-30-2012, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by marshal99

We already had a american who spin off with that awful torchwood miracle day on starz,

i meant with characters who haven't appeared on who before. set in the same universe, but not directly connected. I even have a few ideas for it XD

**Vidocq** · 12-30-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by king mob

A film was kicked around as an idea a few years ago and in fact it's one of the things which was rumoured to be hind why RTD moved to the US but whether Moffat has final say on whether a film is going to be made is debatable based upon a few Private Eye stories at the time. BBC Enterprises would have the final say, and they simply don't want to see the ''brand'' damaged by what would be a really bad idea, not while the programme is still doing well.

Yeah, but like he said, BBC owns it and he is running it for them. He would be the one who has to agree to it for the BBC Execs to even see it. Unless some one went over his head, which is possible.

**Ood Omega** · 12-30-2012, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by 1505627

cybermen of mondas

I saw the Cybermen in the preview, they look fantastic & I can't wait to see that episode! Did they say what month the new episodes will start airing?

**Stressfactor** · 12-30-2012, 04:05 PM

Okay, FINALLY got caught up with my watching (I had to become unmoored from technology for a while since I was staying with my luddite mother over the Christmas holiday) and final verdict is......

A little too smaltzy. Yes, I know it's supposed to be a Christmas special but it was laid on a bit thick here to the point where it became sickly sweet.

There were some genuinely funny lines of dialogue and Lady Vastra, Jenny and Strax made great foils for the rest of the cast.

While Richard E. Grant is a good actor the man did FAR too much acting through his teeth here. His teeth were clenched when he delivered at least half his dialogue. Which just looked ridiculous.

There were some clever ideas but the villain was the GREAT INTELLIGENCE. C'mon! The GI was SCARY back in the day. Here it's... nothing. The only good thing here to give a little shiver was the 'ice governess' but when she started just repeating the Doctor's line over and over again she became less scary.

The fangirl in me loved the little touches like the Doctor dressing as Sherlock Holmes ("Talons of Weng Chi'ang"), the tin with the map of the London Underground circa 1967, and even the Doctor's battered stovepipe hat ("Power of the Daleks"... look it up.)

The fangirl in me though also had to niggle that this story actually contradicts elements of the Great Intelligence from both "The Abominable Snowmen" and "The Web of Fear".

And for goodness sake both "The Abominable Snowmen" and "The Web of Fear" exist as quite good audio dramas. Download them, check them out from your local library, buy them, do SOMETHING because even without the visuals the stories are QUITE good.... Well, okay, "The Web of Fear" absolutely DRAGS in the middle because it's padded as crap and it devolves into a lot of tunnel wandering that doesn't actually contribute anything to the story but the beginning and the end are really great stuff. "The Web of Fear" is particularly good because back in those days the GI had a bad habit of possessing people and it quickly becomes apparent that the Doctor and the dwindling army force trapped down in the underground (and yes, it is the ARMY NOT UNIT. UNIT shows up in "The Invasion".) have someone in their midst who is possessed by the GI. And for once the show does a darn good job of dragging red herrings across the path, keeping your guessing, and never revealing who the traitor is.

**thwhtGuardian** · 12-30-2012, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ood Omega

I saw the Cybermen in the preview, they look fantastic & I can't wait to see that episode! Did they say what month the new episodes will start airing?

April, I believe.

**JCAll** · 12-30-2012, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Stressfactor

There were some clever ideas but the villain was the GREAT INTELLIGENCE. C'mon! The GI was SCARY back in the day. Here it's... nothing.

It got scary at the end when the Doctor killed it, took a moment to get all smug, and then realized he had only made it stronger.
That only lasted a minute though.

**batGRRRl4ever** · 12-30-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ood Omega

I saw the Cybermen in the preview, they look fantastic & I can't wait to see that episode! Did they say what month the new episodes will start airing?

Is it weird to say for robots that the new Cybermen have sexy abs? I bet C-3PO is soooooo jealous!

**Spike-X** · 12-30-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by batGRRRl4ever

Is it weird to say for robots that the new Cybermen have sexy abs?

Yeah. A little.

**thwhtGuardian** · 12-30-2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by batGRRRl4ever

Is it weird to say for robots that the new Cybermen have sexy abs? I bet C-3PO is soooooo jealous!

You would have gone over the moon for the proposed redesign back in 1993 for the 30th anniversary:

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 12-30-2012, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Spike-X

"Nic Cage is...DOCTOR WHO!"

That would be the most awesome fucking thing in existence really...

This has to happen folks....

**Nate Grey** · 12-31-2012, 01:24 AM

Finally saw it yesterday. I liked it. And I was surprised my how much I didn't miss Amy and Rory. While I had no problem with them, it was time to end that particular chapter. But I love how the show built off of said chapter, and the touch with the one word Clara had to say to get the Doctor to investigate.

I also like the idea of the Doctor no only having a companion but a team in Vastra, Jenny, and Strax. And, last but not least, I loved Clara the first time she appeared, love her now. She's just...fun, best way I can put it. Plucky without being annoying. I am looking forward to the mystery surrounding how she can exist, what, three times now?

So is the plan still to make this the last series with Matt Smith, and then the 2013 Christmas special will feature a story where he regenerates?

**king mob** · 12-31-2012, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Vidocq

Yeah, but like he said, BBC owns it and he is running it for them. He would be the one who has to agree to it for the BBC Execs to even see it. Unless some one went over his head, which is possible.

He's running the programme but he's not running what the BBC does with Who at all. The Writer's Tale showed just how much of a struggle RTD had with BBC management, and there's no question that Moffat is facing the same sort of arguments, especially with the stories coming from Private Eye.