Doctor Who thread III: Mad men in a blue box. Everything Whovian. (SPOILERS)

[Flyattractor]

So how is this connected to the silence? or have they been moved past. Nothing was resolved really in series 6. Just that the doctor found an out.

Dr.WHO and continuity do not MIX!

[Ood Omega]

Put me down as one who thinks that a show about Vastra, Jenny and Strax would make an interesting spin-off.

Or at least an comic series. The Vastra, Jenny & Strax Files

[dupersuper]

I quite liked the special. My only problem with it is that it killed the chance of an Eleventh Doctor/ Sherlock Holmes crossover. Not neccesary, BBC Sherlock, just Good old Victorian London Sherlock Holmes. I would love to see Moffat tackle them both.

I did love the Doctor-as-Sherlock scene...

I watched it again tonight with the kids. Lots of "Oh my God!" when Clara mentioned souffle, etc.

That reminds me, I've got to check Youtube to see if the little kid who reviews Who has posted a video yet...

So how is this connected to the silence? or have they been moved past. Nothing was resolved really in series 6. Just that the doctor found an out.

The Silence should believe The Doctor dead now, but there's still that whole "fall of the eleventh on the fields of Transalor when the question is asked" prophecy that he has to deal with.

[Ood Omega]

I'm wondering how many versions of the T.A.R.D.I.S. console/interior there have been? I remember in "The Doctor's Wife" The Doctor mentions he's only "changed the desktop a dozen times".

The Silence should believe The Doctor dead now, but there's still that whole "fall of the eleventh on the fields of Transalor when the question is asked" prophecy that he has to deal with.

I believe this is when he will tell River his name, might even be the 12th Doctor who does it.

[Vidocq]

I'm wondering how many versions of the T.A.R.D.I.S. console/interior there have been? I remember in "The Doctor's Wife" The Doctor mentions he's only "changed the desktop a dozen times".

Counting the EU, Seven times, five on tv

[king mob]

Which its been over used ...I agree. I guess the reason Moffat and others have done this is to shy viewers...why the companion is needed. That the Doctor needs one to balance him in a way. I get why they do it from time to time. Its to show the viewer...the Doctor really needs that person with him. To make him feel more in a way.

Every year though? That's the thing, it's been something that's been part of virtually every series since it returned, just like the 'love conquers all' solution is something Moffat's era is battering to death but at least the Christmas special saw a variation upon it, but it's still a sign Moffat needs someone telling him to go away and have a good think about what he's done.

[king mob]

I think Moffat's considered the idea. Confidential's canceled, Torchwood is in limbo, and SJA had to come to an end after Sladen's death so maybe there's a chance of a new spinoff at some point. However, Moffat has his hands full, hence the seasons of WHO being delayed and split and Sherlock being delayed (Although that might also be due to Cumerbatch in the Star Trek film). So if there is a spinoff it'd probably be in somebody else's hands (Chibnall? Gatiss?). I suppose it could work as an audio or novel series too.

The BBC have a policy of not creating any more spin offs and concentrating on creating new drama rather than diluting the programmes they already have, so unless there's a change of policy, you won't see anything like that in the telly, not to mention that would be a programme too far. I'm sure the characters will pop up in the books or elsewhere, and you did touch on how many plates Moffat is spinning (which seems to be one reason why last year's Christmas special was shite) so one more wouldn't help at all, also the idea of letting Chibnall near anything again to do with Who after the mess of Torchwood isn't going to gain any tractions anywhere. Gatiss however seems to be in pole position to be a possible replacement for Moffat when he leaves.

[king mob]

So how is this connected to the silence? or have they been moved past. Nothing was resolved really in series 6. Just that the doctor found an out.

I got series 5 and 6 for Christmas and one thing that stands out is how well put together(Vincent and the Doctor is simply the best bit of new Who that's been done) series 5 is. There's lots of hints and clues to things that will come; River Song isn't annoying; Karen Gillan can't act but she makes a great companion; the character of Rory is a revelation for the programme; Matt Smith's excellent even when struggling with crap like Victory of the Daleks; and the climax of the series is great but it's also when Moffat sets more plates spinning, a lot of which he's not resolved deliberately but some he fudges, including the character of River Song so by the time you get to A Good Man Went to War you realise Moffat is throwing all this together as he's going along so that he's forgetting about some of the plates he's spinning.

Series 6 kind of resolves the Silence, but doesn't tell us who blew up the Tardis or why the Doctor kind of shrugs something so important off because series 6 is a mess of half formed ideas and it's annoying because Moffat's great at ideas but doesn't seem to able to either follow them through or develop them which is a bizarre thing for someone who wrote Blink and the Girl in the Fireplace but it hits a nadir with Let's Kill Hitler which is just a mess.

So basically, no. I assume this might be wrapped up in the Anniversary special/s but I wouldn't count on it.

[marshal99]

I got series 5 and 6 for Christmas and one thing that stands out is how well put together(Vincent and the Doctor is simply the best bit of new Who that's been done) series 5 is. There's lots of hints and clues to things that will come; River Song isn't annoying; Karen Gillan can't act but she makes a great companion; the character of Rory is a revelation for the programme; Matt Smith's excellent even when struggling with crap like Victory of the Daleks; and the climax of the series is great but it's also when Moffat sets more plates spinning, a lot of which he's not resolved deliberately but some he fudges, including the character of River Song so by the time you get to A Good Man Went to War you realise Moffat is throwing all this together as he's going along so that he's forgetting about some of the plates he's spinning.

Series 6 kind of resolves the Silence, but doesn't tell us who blew up the Tardis or why the Doctor kind of shrugs something so important off because series 6 is a mess of half formed ideas and it's annoying because Moffat's great at ideas but doesn't seem to able to either follow them through or develop them which is a bizarre thing for someone who wrote Blink and the Girl in the Fireplace but it hits a nadir with Let's Kill Hitler which is just a mess.

So basically, no. I assume this might be wrapped up in the Anniversary special/s but I wouldn't count on it.

Mysteries upon mysteries is what Moffat reign on doctor who seemed to specialise in and his explainations tends to be all wrapped up in a wimbly wobbly fashion and forgotten. It's like doctor who lost.

[ChrisIII]

Here's a sight which features an excellent history of the console room (and other props and sets) http://www.themindrobber.co.uk

[Ood Omega]

Gatiss however seems to be in pole position to be a possible replacement for Moffat when he leaves.

Mark Gatiss or Toby Whithouse, I think for the most part they are both solid story tellers.

[Captain Jim]

The BBC have a policy of not creating any more spin offs and concentrating on creating new drama rather than diluting the programmes they already have, so unless there's a change of policy, you won't see anything like that in the telly, not to mention that would be a programme too far.

So, was that policy put into effect after Torchwood and SJA?

[Dizzy D]

Finally got around to watch the Xmas Special (had to work both days) and I just read the thread. I find it funny that everbody is talking that Richard E. Grant was wasted. How about Sir Ian McKellan? At least Grant got to do a little acting instead of just a few voiceover lines.

But overall I liked the special and I want to see more Vastra, Jenny and Strax.

[king mob]

So, was that policy put into effect after Torchwood and SJA?

It was during one of the annual budget reviews that showed the Beeb were spending nothing like what they should on original drama programming, and it was Torchwood which was used as one of the examples. I have to agree with it because the BBC hasn't the money to develop new programming and milk programmes like Who for all it's worth, nor should they.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Me and a friend joked about the Doctor Who DVD prices here at stores and we brought up how many are moving to blu-rays now. How shows and more are going to blu-ray releases.

Me - "Could you imagine the prices they want for Doctor Who blu-ray ?"

Him - "If they want $70 bucks for 13 episodes for a season , likely over $100 for blu-ray."