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    Okay. Did anyone else notice that Mighty Thor #4 features a fight between Thor and the Surfer and the first time the two met was in...
    Silver Surfer #4?

    Cool.

    The first round, I thought seemed to favor Thor. I was very surprised to see Thor's newfound speed...even the Surfer was stunned by his speed. It was the other way around the first time they met.

    My interpretation of the fight? I give it to Thor. However, it seemed to me that much of Surfer's skirmish with Thor was spent...trying not to fight Thor, while Thor seemed to be cutting loose a bit.

    However, nothing will be conclusive until round two has been fought in Mighty Thor #5.

    Can't wait.

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    [QUOTE=Surtur;13551829]Hmm, probably is something Thor couldn't normally be ok after. Though probably not enough to survive the onslaught of his two opponents(barring more feats of course).

    EDIT: Someone called it space armor, why does he need space armor? He's never had problems in space before. Was it to specifically battle the Surfer? Also who made the armor?[/QUOTE]

    Maybe to prevent his wound from getting any worse?

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    Yeah, but Surfer has Flash level speed. So I'm thinking him being impressed by Thor's speed just means he was surprised to realize Thor had a decent level of super speed, not that he had speed comparable to Surfer himself. Not to say you are claiming Thor does, but the quote has been brought up before.
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    Some points to note - the armour may be adding to Thor's movement, in some pages when Thor flys the armor bleeds out white exhaust just like Tony's repulsors do in his Ironman suit....the Asgardian tech/magic might be adding to Thor's speed like Ironman's suit helps Tony move faster. The reason I think Thor is wearing a sort of anti-galactus-stuff armor, is because Matt Fraction knows modern continuity and believes post Annihilation Surfer is more powerful, Thor was losing badly in the previous fight. Giving Thor the armor is a way for Marvel to keep the balance, Thor can some how go silver age and hurt Galactus like he did all those years ago, armour Thor can beat Surfer like Thor used to beat classical Surfer. Fraction didn't want to erase the past few years of cosmic continuity so instead he gives Thor the plot space armor.

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    How is the armor put on? Is it like regular armor, or does it just appear on him seamlessly, or does it require spells to wear/remove it?

    Cause if its just like normal armor, then his opponents could theoretically just take it from him if there is a sufficient speed difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlwind Dinamo View Post
    Some points to note - the armour may be adding to Thor's movement, in some pages when Thor flys the armor bleeds out white exhaust just like Tony's repulsors do in his Ironman suit....the Asgardian tech/magic might be adding to Thor's speed like Ironman's suit helps Tony move faster. The reason I think Thor is wearing a sort of anti-galactus-stuff armor, is because Matt Fraction knows modern continuity and believes post Annihilation Surfer is more powerful, Thor was losing badly in the previous fight. Giving Thor the armor is a way for Marvel to keep the balance, Thor can some how go silver age and hurt Galactus like he did all those years ago, armour Thor can beat Surfer like Thor used to beat classical Surfer. Fraction didn't want to erase the past few years of cosmic continuity so instead he gives Thor the plot space armor.
    The fight on earth was pretty much even for me, Thor bleed after the headbutt but Surfers head got dented.

    Non of them had the upperhand, they fight had just started when Odin arrived, both of them cant take a lot more to be put down.
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    Just looked at the fight.

    While there is a strange depiction of superspeed - Thor rams into Galactus at superspeed while Surfer can't do anything, but apparently Silver can ram Thor into Mars without Thor being able to react- the fight is fairly even. The whole "That hurt even me." and "I didn't feel a thing." part seems to be more of a boast on Thor's part. (Neither of them seem to be really affected by it, beside being a tad dizzy.)

    Also, Thor made no hole in Galactus' head. He hit him with Mjolnir, making a big explosion, which slightly distracted Galactus and allowed Odin to get ahead in their duel. (Odin has a similar "No!" moment when the Surfer rams Thor into Mars.)



    On another note, I rather like the way the fight between Odin and Galactus is shown -a mental duel instead of just blasting away.
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    Is Galactus shown to be superior to Odin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    Is Galactus shown to be superior to Odin?
    Both of them are in the middle of a mental duel being forcing the other to relive his worst memories. So it's hard to tell.

    Odin seems a tad more taken into his flashbacks though. Galactus having flat out gone "This happened a while ago, Odin is inside my head." in one of his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Both of them are in the middle of a mental duel being forcing the other to relive his worst memories. So it's hard to tell.

    Odin seems a tad more taken into his flashbacks though. Galactus having flat out gone "This happened a while ago, Odin is inside my head." in one of his.
    It's an interesting duel, but to what ends I can't fathom, other than to subconsciously get the other to "give up".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatchMadripoor View Post
    It's an interesting duel, but to what ends I can't fathom, other than to subconsciously get the other to "give up".
    More or less explained at the start of the issue. The first one of them to crack will be distracted, giving the other the time to explode him.

    Thor/Surfer have the same role. If one of the two won, he could then go on to distract Odin/Galactus, allowing the other to frag him.
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    The armour is purely artistic license ( thus far). There is no indication that the armour does anything much less have jet boots a la Iron Man! If you do want to see Thor fighting in space at ftl speeds then look no further then his first meeting with Beta Ray Bill in Thor 337. No armour required :)

    Both Thor and the Surfer are hurt in the fight so issue 5 promises to be a good one. I think the Odin/ Galactus fight is a great one. They both can cause massive physical destruction so they are fighting on a different plan of existence entirely. I think Galactus is slowly edging the fight but it will be interesting to see what Loki does and how the seed plays into this.

    My guess is that the seed transforms into a separate life form but Im very much enjoying this!
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    The armour is purely artistic license ( thus far). There is no indication that the armour does anything much less have jet boots a la Iron Man! If you do want to see Thor fighting in space at ftl speeds then look no further then his first meeting with Beta Ray Bill in Thor 337. No armour required :)

    Both Thor and the Surfer are hurt in the fight so issue 5 promises to be a good one. I think the Odin/ Galactus fight is a great one. They both can cause massive physical destruction so they are fighting on a different plan of existence entirely. I think Galactus is slowly edging the fight but it will be interesting to see what Loki does and how the seed plays into this.

    My guess is that the seed transforms into a separate life form but Im very much enjoying this!


    Exactly.

    It is not stated anywhere in the issue that the armor is protecting or enhancing Thor. Heck, Thor is still clearly flying around with Mjolnir.

    In the first skirmish between them, Thor dented Surfer's head with head butt and Thor's head was bleeding also, nothing in this fight showed that either of them had the upper hand against the other. What i find curious is that if Thor's head butt can dent the Surfer, shouldn't direct strikes from Mjolnir cause him even greater damage?

    I actually loved the Odin vs Galactus seen. These guys can shake galaxies so a physical battle would obviously be too destructive. However, seeing Odin make Galactus sweat was priceless.

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    I'm inclined to wait for round 2 in The Mighty Thor #5 before making any hard decisions. But a lot of what I observed in the first round was this:

    1) I have never seen Thor move that fast before. I mean, he even had the Surfer startled by his speed. I know Thor has achieved three times the speed of light with Mjolnir...I've just never seen it applied to battle speed. And I don't imagine this speed translates to any fighting done while on foot.
    2) It appeared to me that much of what Surfer was doing was somewhere between passive and defensive (oddly enough, a bit like their first encounter in Silver Surfer #4.)

    That being said, unless there are as yet undisclosed powers the "astro armor" gives Thor, I can't imagine him being able to repel the combined attack of Superman and Black Adam.

    Black Adam and Superman for the win in my humble opinion.

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    were are all missing the point here, the important thing too take from Odin vs Galactus is his golden space pimp armor.
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