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    Default Thunderbolts in the Ultimate Universe

    if the Thunderbolts were to make an Ultimate U appearance, how would you like to see it happen? their own mini? as a group a villains in an ongoing? which members would be on the team and what's their purpose?

    personally, I'd like to see a team composed to different members from different 616 incarnations. something like:

    Venom
    Ghost
    Beetle (Mach V)

    and some other people. not sure if Bullseye is dead, don't remember. maybe throw in Deadpool as the leader, with the Thunderbolts being a team made to hunt down mutants or something. just an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaParker View Post
    if the Thunderbolts were to make an Ultimate U appearance, how would you like to see it happen? their own mini? as a group a villains in an ongoing? which members would be on the team and what's their purpose?

    personally, I'd like to see a team composed to different members from different 616 incarnations. something like:

    Venom
    Ghost
    Beetle (Mach V)

    and some other people. not sure if Bullseye is dead, don't remember. maybe throw in Deadpool as the leader, with the Thunderbolts being a team made to hunt down mutants or something. just an idea.
    See Ultimate Comics Avengers 1, 2, 3 & UAvNU for the Ultimate version of the Thunderbolts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    See Ultimate Comics Avengers 1, 2, 3 & UAvNU for the Ultimate version of the Thunderbolts...
    not the same thing but okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaParker View Post
    not the same thing but okay.
    The Thunderbolts are a group of villains that were made into a team to work for the government as part of their punishment, correct? The Ultimate Avengers are comprised of criminals who were given the opportunity to work off their jail time or even just to be reformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    The Thunderbolts are a group of villains that were made into a team to work for the government as part of their punishment, correct? The Ultimate Avengers are comprised of criminals who were given the opportunity to work off their jail time or even just to be reformed.
    okay, but its not the Thunderbolts. I know the concepts are similar but the characters aren't and I'm sure their missions wouldn't be. Spider-man...puts on a costume, fights villains. how many other people fit the same model? nevermind I guess. no point in bringing up the idea if its just gonna get shot down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaParker View Post
    not the same thing but okay.
    Ultimate Avengers 3 #5:
    "I know what you guys do: you capture super-folk, stick an implant in their head and turn them into super-assassins." - Blade

    How are they not the same? Are you talking roster or theme wise? Did you mean the original theme with villains masquarading as heroes? Well to make that work you'd think Ultimates would 1st get disambled, but then again who would have the money to support their organization? You'd need a Stark like rich person here, or are you talking as if Nick Fury would get villains masquarading as public heroes? Well thats again a Avengers thing as Avengers member who played nice would receive a promotion, sucha s Hawkeye, Quick Silver, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow and the 2nd Black Widow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaParker View Post
    okay, but its not the Thunderbolts. I know the concepts are similar but the characters aren't and I'm sure their missions wouldn't be. Spider-man...puts on a costume, fights villains. how many other people fit the same model? nevermind I guess. no point in bringing up the idea if its just gonna get shot down.
    I'm not shooting down your idea. Plus I'm only one poster; Other's haven't commented yet. But as far as the same characters argument goes it doesn't really apply. I mean look at the X-Men in the Ultimate Universe: it has Human Torch on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaParker View Post
    not the same thing but okay.
    It sort of is...Punisher was on the lam, pretty sure Blade was too. Then there's Cash who had to be blackmailed on the team and had technically stolen government scientific work. Fury was once a criminal, as was Hawkeye. You know what here are the characters with clean slates:

    Monica Chang
    James Rhodes

    I missing anyone?
    Last edited by wyokid; 07-22-2011 at 12:56 PM.
    Anyone who doesn't like Miles Morales is a racist.

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    how about if they were more like a "Masters Of Evil" type group? which is what the original Thunderbolts were.

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    So the Liberators? :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyokid View Post
    It sort of is...Punisher was on the lam, pretty sure Blade was too. Then there's Cash who had to be blackmailed on the team and had technically stolen government scientific work. Fury was once a criminal, as was Hawkeye. You know what here are the characters with clean slates:

    Monica Chang
    James Rhodes
    Nerd Hulk

    I missing anyone?
    Blade


    Actually Nerd Hulk is a clone of a criminal so he's guilty by association.

    Here are the criminals on the team:

    - Nick Fury
    - Perun
    - Punisher
    - Red Wasp
    - Tyrone Cash
    - Hawkeye
    - Nerd Hulk
    - Quicksilver
    - Scarlet Witch

    Here are the characters that were evil all along but weren't put on the team because of it:

    - Gregory Stark
    - The Spider
    - Black Widow
    Last edited by Balfro; 07-22-2011 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaParker View Post
    how about if they were more like a "Masters Of Evil" type group? which is what the original Thunderbolts were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    So the Liberators? :p
    Zing

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    lol okay, it was bad idea. I get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    Blade


    Actually Nerd Hulk is a clone of a criminal so he's guilty by association.

    Here are the criminals on the team:

    - Nick Fury
    - Perun
    - Punisher
    - Red Wasp
    - Tyrone Cash
    - Hawkeye
    - Nerd Hulk
    - Quicksilver
    - Scarlet Witch
    - Black Widow

    Here are the characters that were evil all along but weren't put on the team because of it:

    - Gregory Stark
    - The Spider
    I thought Blade was on the lam
    Anyone who doesn't like Miles Morales is a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyokid View Post
    I thought Blade was on the lam
    first of all, I don't know what that is. Second of all, no.

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