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    Grant Morrison talks on SDCC11

    - Batman: Leviathan begins in January 2012.
    - You will cry, you will cry alot promises Morrison.
    - Freddy Freeman, Mary, and the lieutenant Marvels will be in Multiversity.
    - Grant: "I do have ideas for Wonder Woman. When I wrote Supergods and got into what Marston was trying to do, I didn't understand it, but I'd like to find some way to update it."
    - New Gods are reborn in Earth 51 which also shows in Multiversity.
    - Morrison has a Flash story in mind he wants to tell, he had talked to Dan Didio about doing Earth One Flash, but it's a single story, grounded and it's about 1 thing happening to 1 person or so.
    - Once Cameron Stewart is done with the single issue of Batman incorporated he's moving onto Thunderworld, the "All Star Captain Marvel" issue of Multiversity.
    - How does Morrison get inside the heads of freaks like Pyg? We all have that dark side in us he responses, kinda true when you think about it.
    - "Professor Pyg I though, all these Batman rogues are supposed to be crazy, but I wanted him to sound ACTUALLY schizophrenic." - Morrison
    - How did Morrison come up with Simon Hurt? His response: Morrison "I wanted to see Batman against the Devil, didn't have to be literal, just the idea of a devil. So it started out with Batman beats the Devil, then I created the lore behind him."
    - Simon Hurt will NOT make an appearence by Morrison in Inc/Leviathan, he's told his story with him.
    - No All-Star Superman follow up planned, but Action Comics has some of the same chords as thats showing us how Superman becomes a great hero like he was in All Star
    - Regarding Action Comics: "They're playing up more of the Kryptonian stuff at the other title, but mine is about the farmboy in the city, and Clark Kent is doing as much work on fighting social injustice as Superman is."
    - Superman will never be as brooding as Batman for Morrison. Superman has lost billions of people and he still smiles today. Batman's still crying for his mommy and daddy.
    - "So my Superman will be a pro-active, young, powerful guy. It's Action Comics, so Superman has to be doing stuff!"
    - "He's only darker in the sense that he gets stuff done. he's no longer a friend of the law, he stands for Justice, and that may conflict with the law sometimes."
    - Fan asks if we will see more of Scarlet, Morrison's response was that he won't be writing her atleast.
    - Morrison feels the Damian and Dick dynamic should have lasted longer, but they're making the departure and Dick going Nightwing into something that works and is believable.
    - Batman: Leviathan is about Bruce and Damian, Morrison once again promises that you will cry, alot.
    - Regarding Batman and Action Comics: "Batman's kinda a puzzle book for me. I set out to tell puzzle stories with secrets and solutions. Action is more about forward momentum."
    - "It always starts with something, like the Ouroboros in Batman Inc, and it spins out into different things."
    - Action Comics is set in the past for 6 issues, in #7 we get back to "modern" and then at times it jumps back and forth in the timeline.
    - Morrison really likes the Batman the Brave and Bold spin-off comic.
    - Action Comics is more about the tone of Golden Age era heroes without any specific storylines from then.
    - Fan asks Morrison's thoughts on why Batman films > Superman right now, his response: Morrison "Batman's cooler and has money and is around femme fatales. I certainly think the anti-authoritarian Superman is coming back, we might see a Superman that's a bit more relatable."

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    So morrison is in fact writing Superman in modern day starting with Action #7. Interesting...

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    Grant alleviates a lot of my fears. And if he finds the "regression" of Dick back to Nightwing believable, then I suppose I will as well. It's less because I'm a Morrison fanboy and more because he and I tend to be on the same wavelength.

    Great to hear more about his Wonder Woman thoughts might be happening. It's a story that I'd like to see told, and doesn't "need" to be in-continuity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    - Morrison feels the Damian and Dick dynamic should have lasted longer, but they're making the departure and Dick going Nightwing into something that works and is believable.
    But will it be good

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    Fan "How do you feel about Dick Grayson dropping down to Nightwing and not being partnered with Damien?"

    Morrison "It's happening and we're making it work. I always thought they should let that go for 5 or 6 years, cause there's something about the pairing that just works so well."
    Not sure how much better this really makes me feel about it, "we're making it work". Plus even he would rather see them last longer.
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    Of course it should have lasted longer, it was genius, DC just didnt have the balls to keep Bruce on moth-balls for 5 to 6 years.

    We didnt even get a chance to miss Bruce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Not sure how much better this really makes me feel about it. Even he would rather see them last longer.
    If most of fans feels that it should have last a little longer and writers such as Morrison too, it makes you wonder if people making decision in DC actually know what they're doing.

    Anyway, any release date for Multiversity? Or at least a release date of the release date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestin View Post
    If most of fans feels that it should have last a little longer and writers such as Morrison too, it makes you wonder if people making decision in DC actually know what they're doing.
    Given that, probably yes. Leave when they're still wanting more, as opposed their current M.O. of running it into the ground.

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    So we're all going to cry a lot with Batman: Leviathan? I wonder what that means? Of course my first thought was Damien's going to get it. But I dunno...

    And even Morrison wanted the Dick and Damien dynamic to go on longer! Now I feel better that I wasn't the only one thinking that, but even more sad because it's still happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwangung View Post
    Given that, probably yes. Leave when they're still wanting more, as opposed their current M.O. of running it into the ground.
    But they're not leaving, just going somewhere else.

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    Of course it should have lasted longer, it was genius,
    Dick as Batman with Damian didn't skyrocket sales, no matter how much we the internet minority liked it. All the Batman books have been doing is being the best of still bad disappointing sales numbers.

    The Relaunch is what really specifically ended Dick as Batman, and ended Dick/Damian. I think if DC didn't do this Relaunch now, we'd still see Dick/Damian at least, maybe more Dick-as-Batman.

    But once DC knew they were doing the Relaunch right now, they knew the sales numbers don't give some great excuse for sparing the Batman books entirely.

    Bruce is Batman (with Robin) is the safest risk, he's "back to basics" for new readers....and there you go.

    On a positive note, I still think Dick/Damian as a team, Nightwing/Robin, might happen again.
    DC discarded their history, and now has none. DC will always be in the shadows of their past work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgiannantoni05 View Post
    Bruce is Batman (with Robin) is the safest risk, he's "back to basics" for new readers....and there you go.
    Hence the whole, "DC just didnt have the balls to keep Bruce on moth-balls for 5 to 6 years."

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    Hence the whole, "DC just didnt have the balls to keep Bruce on moth-balls for 5 to 6 years."
    And it's true in a sense....IN A SENSE.

    Because I really do see dispassionate business logic of it. If I had fiduciary duties to shareholders too, that logic really makes sense.
    DC discarded their history, and now has none. DC will always be in the shadows of their past work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgiannantoni05 View Post
    Dick as Batman with Damian didn't skyrocket sales, no matter how much we the internet minority liked it. All the Batman books have been doing is being the best of still bad disappointing sales numbers.

    The Relaunch is what really specifically ended Dick as Batman, and ended Dick/Damian. I think if DC didn't do this Relaunch now, we'd still see Dick/Damian at least, maybe more Dick-as-Batman.

    But once DC knew they were doing the Relaunch right now, they knew the sales numbers don't give some great excuse for sparing the Batman books entirely.

    Bruce is Batman (with Robin) is the safest risk, he's "back to basics" for new readers....and there you go.

    On a positive note, I still think Dick/Damian as a team, Nightwing/Robin, might happen again.
    It's okay, DC is brilliant. Everytime they reboot to get new readers, then end up getting none, and lose some of the readers they already had.

    I'm excited to see this relaunch be a drop in the pond and interested to see what comics will be like when DC and Marvel's terrible short-sighted practices and frozen in place universe finally collapses in on itself. Then maybe some of the people with original voices and ideas who've fled comics, where fans yell at each other claiming one group despises change when in reality DC's reboot is not change. Not real change at least. We have a fresh and shiny curtain but the man behind it is still a dick.

    Oh well. I'm down to Action Comics #1 and Batman: Leviathan for DCnU. But I'm sure there are millions of new readers eager to get in on the ground floor of nonsense like Superman pining for Lois Lane.

    The sales thing seems silly to me. Dick and Damian as Batman and Robin was the only non-Blackest Night DC comic to sell over 80k units a month every month for it's duration. The only one. Obviously it worked. It worked better then Morrison's previous Batman run. And imo it works even better then Batman Inc, which is sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgiannantoni05 View Post
    And it's true in a sense....IN A SENSE.

    Because I really do see dispassionate business logic of it. If I had fiduciary duties to shareholders too, that logic really makes sense.
    Why would the shareholders care about what is going on in the comic? There is no such thing as a shareholder in DC Comics. They're a division of Time/Warner. As long as they're pumping out a Batman movie every few years, and there's a cartoon and toy line, I can't see why they'd care about the plots of Batman comics.

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    Why would the shareholders care about what is going on in the comic? There is no such thing as a shareholder in DC Comics. They're a division of Time/Warner.
    That Time/Warner has shareholders is enough to make everyone in every division aimed at pleasing the shareholders and meeting target marks. X being a division of Y doesn't change that, X's job is to please Y's shareholders, who own X. Y's divisions' subdivisions could have further subdivisions...and they'd ALL be responsible for pleasing Y's shareholders.
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