Polaris Appreciation III

[bongy]

While I can see them wanting to take a holiday break after their long ordeal in space, I just can't see any of them not wanting to get involved in the events of Schism after being kept out of the loop for so long. All three of them have a huge stake in events, Scott as Rachel's father, Scott as Havok's brother, and Magneto as Polaris' father.

Marvel may have different plans and all, and maybe they'd find a reasonable justification for the three of them not getting involved, but just sitting here with things as they are now I simply can't see one.

I agree, there's a lot of story potential with Lorna, Alex, and Rachel and their familial ties. I hope they don't shuffle them off to the sidelines.

Lets face it game makers dislike Lorna as a character and I believe it has to do with them seeing characters through their powers not their personalities so they see her as a Magneto clone. Some female characters who have the same powers as a male character have enough popularity where they can overcome that and get into games anyway (think She Hulk and X-23). But, Lorna certainly isn't there at least in the mind of most not hard core fans.

When Jean faces off against Morrigan doesn't she say something to the effect of "You remind me of somebody I know..." Isn't that a reference to Lorna considering Morrigan has green hair and Lorna wore a similar costume?

I do wish she was in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 though. She could play more rushdown as opposed to Magneto's distance game.

[psynetrix]

Hey Polaris fans! Lots of updates since last week in the Polaris Blog:

• Cute art of Polaris and Eric the Red
• A Swimsuit special from Madripoor
• Polaris & Wolverine in Genosha
• Lorna, Warren, & Bobby by Jae Lee
• A beautiful shot by Salvador Larroca
• The first Cosplay in the blog
• Jean & Lorna in the old days
• More Micro History: The Red Armor
• Polarity and the Elementals
• Children of Magnus
• First Polaris homage
• Angry Lorna by Roger Cruz
• CGI Rogue vs. Lorna

Enjoy guys!

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[The_Greatest_Username]

I remember that issue with Polaris and Wolverine, I really liked her interacting with X-Men again.

[jmc247]

When Jean faces off against Morrigan doesn't she say something to the effect of "You remind me of somebody I know..." Isn't that a reference to Lorna considering Morrigan has green hair and Lorna wore a similar costume?

I do wish she was in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 though. She could play more rushdown as opposed to Magneto's distance game.

The line the Capcom game was a bone to hard core fans. But, its not a plot point that fans other then hard core Lorna and Jean fans would know about. Writers in the 616 bring it up every now and again, but short of them being on a team together for a few years or being best friends in the next animated series that line isn't going to mean anything to most people playing the game.

Besides when it comes to bones the least I am waiting for is her having a decent NPC role in a game. Not an off pannel damsel in distress like in X-Men Legends II. When it comes to the real deal I do hope she will eventually be playable in a game, but I know in order for that to happen she either needs to become much more popular or the cast of playable characters needs to be massive.

[jmc247]

I remember that issue with Polaris and Wolverine, I really liked her interacting with X-Men again.

It was fairly ho hum for me in regards to Polaris, but it did do something very important for her IMO. Fabian Nicieza booted Lorna from Genosha in Dark Seduction and white washed her reasons for being there. Scott Lobdell added her into her plot bringing her back to Genosha and if he didn't do so its entirely possible Morrison wouldn't have written her on Genosha and as we know Morrison's depiction of her in New X-Men 132 in 2002 directly caused Austen to go back and change his scripts and his plans regarding Lorna.

So, her entire history as a character might have been different if Nicieza didn't bring her back to Genosha. Of course I consider Eve of Destruction a really crappy story line so its not like I personally thank him all that much for it.

[The_Greatest_Username]

Yes, it's another reason for me to love Lobdell.

[jmc247]

Yes, it's another reason for me to love Lobdell.

Not much love for Scott Lobdell by me at least for his work with the X-Men. He did everything he could to reduce Magneto to his power mad one note world conquering Silver Age persona EoD.

The best writers have a natural evolution for characters instead of simply going to the default characterization they know from the past. Lorna suffered for years and years because writers kept returning her to her default persona from the 70s or at very least not letting her move too far from that persona.

[The_Greatest_Username]

Not much love for Scott Lobdell by me at least for his work with the X-Men. He did everything he could to reduce Magneto to his power mad one note world conquering Silver Age persona EoD.

The best writers have a natural evolution for characters instead of simply going to the default characterization they know from the past. Lorna suffered for years and years because writers kept returning her to her default persona from the 70s or at very least not letting her move too far from that persona.

While enjoy Magneto, I'm not to huge of a fan of his so deconstructing his character doesn't bother me too much.
I really like most of Lodbell's characterizations, such as his Emma Frost and Marrow.

[jmc247]

While enjoy Magneto, I'm not to huge of a fan of his so deconstructing his character doesn't bother me too much.
I really like most of Lodbell's characterizations, such as his Emma Frost and Marrow.

I would call it more regressing the character. His Magneto was Silver Age Magneto to a T along with the insanely stupid idea for fighting the X-Men and it hurt the whole story to have such a stupid enemy for the X-Men to face. That said I can pass his depiction in EoD off easier then I can reinvisioning 616 Magneto as genocidal Ultimate Magneto.

It hurts the entire family including Lorna when they go down that route. It opens the door for his children to be portrayed more unstable and bad... like what happened in the Ultimate Universe.

[The_Greatest_Username]

That may apply to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, but Polaris probably wouldn't fall into the same category given that she's never been a "villain" while having control over her own actions. Lorna would be portrayed as unstable for different reasons.

[jmc247]

Art time the first one by Jaggyd



The second by Paco Diaz

That may apply to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, but Polaris probably wouldn't fall into the same category given that she's never been a "villain" while having control over her own actions. Lorna would be portrayed as unstable for different reasons.

First I don't like the word hero or villain in the context of the X-Men and their conflict between other pro-mutant groups. The basic notion in my view is supposed to be about different ideas about protecting mutants not a battle of good vs evil. Second I was talking about the Ultimate version of the family (of which Polaris was not a part) saying by making Magneto so much worse it allowed the writers to make his children so much worse.

Third she by her own free will in the 616 sided with Magneto (later retconned into being a robot) and Mesmero and fought the Avengers in Dark Seduction. If one views those who side against the X-Men or Avengers as villians then at time she was one just like Wanda and Pietro were at times. The thing is I hate those terms in regard to the X-Men as I have said. Going by the hero/villain logic Wolverine if he fights Scott thus becomes a villain because he doesn't agree with the current X-Men's leadership and actions.

[jetgirl]

Bump Polaris 4 ever

[jmc247]

Hey Polaris fans! Lots of updates since last week in the Polaris Blog:

• Cute art of Polaris and Eric the Red
• A Swimsuit special from Madripoor
• Polaris & Wolverine in Genosha
• Lorna, Warren, & Bobby by Jae Lee
• A beautiful shot by Salvador Larroca
• The first Cosplay in the blog
• Jean & Lorna in the old days
• More Micro History: The Red Armor
• Polarity and the Elementals
• Children of Magnus
• First Polaris homage
• Angry Lorna by Roger Cruz
• CGI Rogue vs. Lorna

Enjoy guys!

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Nice job, today will be an interesting day as the x-pannel will happen at about 3PM Pacific Time.

[salarta]

I've been promoting discussion of Lorna (well, all the X-men in space, but my focus is on Lorna) on a different site today before we get the X-panel coming out with info.

There were so many threads during Polaris week that I had a hard time spending time on all of them and had to be sporadic. I'm still glad we had so many threads about her though, it was very uplifting to see people talking about her more.

On the video game side, Capcom seems to be digging itself deeper and deeper holes lately. UMvC3 seems to be getting a lot of negative press, which in a way makes me not as disappointed that Lorna isn't in it. Yes, I'd like her there as playable and prominent, but she'd also be joining a game as part of a highly despised move by Capcom to bilk money out of consumers. Maybe we'll get to see her revealed as in X-Men Destiny today though. Ideally, I'd like to believe another X-men or Marvel game would be announced where she's playable, but that doesn't seem likely.

[jmc247]

I've been promoting discussion of Lorna (well, all the X-men in space, but my focus is on Lorna) on a different site today before we get the X-panel coming out with info.

There were so many threads during Polaris week that I had a hard time spending time on all of them and had to be sporadic. I'm still glad we had so many threads about her though, it was very uplifting to see people talking about her more.

On the video game side, Capcom seems to be digging itself deeper and deeper holes lately. UMvC3 seems to be getting a lot of negative press, which in a way makes me not as disappointed that Lorna isn't in it. Yes, I'd like her there as playable and prominent, but she'd also be joining a game as part of a highly despised move by Capcom to bilk money out of consumers. Maybe we'll get to see her revealed as in X-Men Destiny today though. Ideally, I'd like to believe another X-men or Marvel game would be announced where she's playable, but that doesn't seem likely.

I think there will be a fair deal of Marvel gaming news coming from SDCC this weekend. Hopefully we find out Lorna is at least an NPC for X-Men Destiny. She has never even had a decient NPC role in an x-game.