Polaris Appreciation III

[Siena Blaze]

Certainly some interesting info, thanks for bringing it over.

I like to read different sites to see how similar their Polaris bios are. Some are almost identical, as if copy/pasted from a certain really old source when Polaris was a lot weaker.

[jmc247]

I like to read different sites to see how similar their Polaris bios are. Some are almost identical, as if copy/pasted from a certain really old source when Polaris was a lot weaker.

Yes, the quotes about Lorna's powers from an 80s encyclopedia article on Lorna and her powers do tend to get repeated to this day.

Also a nice review of X-Men Legacy 254.

http://xmen-supreme.blogspot.com

For a disclaimer its an R rated review.

[TheCatBastet]

Excuse me, but I must interrupt.

... This is like saying anyone that supports Havok and Polaris as a couple wants that to be the only thing she has going for her, and wants anything and everything else that could be used about her tossed away.

Even though Marvel has a history of acting that way (which hopefully isn't something current Marvel continues doing), that's not necessarily what fans supporting that relationship want. Fans of Lorna that like her in relationship aren't by default saying "I want Lorna to get beat down a lot and remembered only as the green-haired thing that follows Alex around." Likewise, fans of Lorna that want her family connection explored don't necessarily want her to ONLY have being one of Magneto's daughters going for her.

I can't put words in anyone's mouths, but I think the big draws of allowing Lorna to remain as Magneto's daughter this time and spending more time on it are:

1) it was part of her introduction as a character and the most major aspect of her involvement in X-men... until it was retconned

Now this (point 1) I have to take issue with. The reveal the Lorna was not Magneto's daughter was part of the same storyline that introduced her. Bobby met Lorna in San Francisco; she got kidnapped; Mesmero used his machine to activate her power; Magneto showed up & claimed her as his daughter; Magneto fought the X-Men & was injured; Lorna decided to stand by her Dad (a total stranger, by the way ); Scott infiltrated Magneto's team under the guise of Eric the Red; Bobby showed up with the news that Magneto had lied & Lorna was [B]not[B] his daughter; Lorna turns against Magneto & hooks up with the X-Men. All in one storyline, about 4 or 5 issues. Then she spent 30-some years not being related to Magneto.

Then Austen decided to change things. In the years since, I've gotten used to the idea & am looking forward to Carey writing their reunion. And I really hope future writers develop a good relationship between them.

[jmc247]

After looking at the cover art for Legacy 256 and 257 as well as the preview art for Legacy 255 out now I would say the first meeting between the X-Men in space and mind controlled Korvus, Havok and Polaris doesn't go all that well. We don't see Havok and Polaris on the preview page so we can assume that Polaris and Havok are battling Magneto. Though Havok may have already been taken down as he doesn't have much to defend against Magneto's iron/blood and other tricks. I think Frenzy and Gambit lose big from what we have seen so far but it remains to be seen what happens with the likely Havok and Polaris vs Magneto battle. Hopefully at least one of the X-Men in space end up breaking free by the end of next issue, but let's see how Mike Carey plays it.

Hopefully, if the X-Men in space are mind controlled into Five Miles four or five that Marvel finds time for some post mind controlled Lorna/Magneto development, but with everything going on in Schism and after there isn't alot of time for that, perhaps in the Magneto mini series though.

[jetgirl]

I was watching 90210 (i know) I found a striking resemblance to Silver-Lorna character

Mostly cause the silver went crazy storyline, Silver obsession to Dixon led her to kill her self pretty much as lorna, She was willing to kill Nurse Annie because of havok

there is resemblance Between parent relationship issues despite the pain Silver mother causes to her children silver was there for here same as polaris she is daddy little girl

[The_Greatest_Username]

I'm hoping that Lorna receiving a Legacy cover first is some sort of indication that she'll be broken free of mind-control first.

[jmc247]

I'm hoping that Lorna receiving a Legacy cover first is some sort of indication that she'll be broken free of mind-control first.

That would be the best case scenario, my money is on Havok and Korvus being still mind controlled after the next issue. Lorna I am not sure about, it depends on how things go with her battle with Magneto.

By the way have you heard anything new on X-Men Legacy?

Back in June I noticed for the Polaris statue coming out in October brought up her time in X-Factor. Which wouldn't be all that unusual for an early 2000s statue, but was a bit for one today, that said they could have had prior warning of long term plans.

Polaris Statue. A Bowen Designs Sculpt! As the illegitimate daughter of Magneto, Lorna Dane was born with the power to control and manipulate magnetic fields, much like her infamous father. Long an ally of the X-Men, either with the team proper or with one of its associated teams like X-Factor, she went by the codename Polaris and had a long-time on-again/off-again relationship with fellow mutant, Havok. Mike Cusanelli recreates Polaris as a 12 inch statue that captures the magnetic beauty of this powerful mutant.

http://urban-collector.blogspot.com/...n-designs.html

[Mitteloss]

I'm hoping that Lorna receiving a Legacy cover first is some sort of indication that she'll be broken free of mind-control first.

I feel the same way... I think they could easily end up in a situation where Havok will be last to break free of the mind-control.

It seems like this arc would still remain centred on Rogue and te regular cast rather than Polaris, Havok and Rachel.

jmc- That statue is beautiful!

[jmc247]

I feel the same way... I think they could easily end up in a situation where Havok will be last to break free of the mind-control.

It seems like this arc would still remain centred on Rogue and te regular cast rather than Polaris, Havok and Rachel.

jmc- That statue is beautiful!

That is the best case scenario for us that Lorna joins the regular cast rather then staying mind controlled until the end. It also presents the chance for Lorna to break her hold on being mind controlled on her own for the first time as Salarta discussed.

[salarta]

Now this (point 1) I have to take issue with. The reveal the Lorna was not Magneto's daughter was part of the same storyline that introduced her. Bobby met Lorna in San Francisco; she got kidnapped; Mesmero used his machine to activate her power; Magneto showed up & claimed her as his daughter; Magneto fought the X-Men & was injured; Lorna decided to stand by her Dad (a total stranger, by the way ); Scott infiltrated Magneto's team under the guise of Eric the Red; Bobby showed up with the news that Magneto had lied & Lorna was [B]not[B] his daughter; Lorna turns against Magneto & hooks up with the X-Men. All in one storyline, about 4 or 5 issues. Then she spent 30-some years not being related to Magneto.

Then Austen decided to change things. In the years since, I've gotten used to the idea & am looking forward to Carey writing their reunion. And I really hope future writers develop a good relationship between them.

A quick reply to this so it doesn't look like I'm just ignoring people when they say things like this: sorry, I've only managed to read the first three issues Lorna first appeared in so far. I still think part of the big draw for her as Magneto's daughter is how it worked for her in her introductory issues, though. It was one of very few cases in her character history where she was allowed to be an important character in her own right and the focus of the entire storyline. It's extremely rare for her to get that now.

I'm hoping that Lorna receiving a Legacy cover first is some sort of indication that she'll be broken free of mind-control first.

It might. I'm hoping more that it's an indication that she's getting real attention focused on her personally, and that's likely the case since she gets to be a dominating figure for the cover.

I have to reiterate that I'm extremely happy with what I'm getting from Carey's last arc of Legacy so far. I'm honestly considering getting two issues of #255, for the pure and simple reason that I'd want to read one and the other could be left untouched.

[Brian M.]

Every character has potential. I hate seeing character fanatics scream about how theirs has more than any other. It doesn't justify being used.

[salarta]

Every character has potential. I hate seeing character fanatics scream about how theirs has more than any other. It doesn't justify being used.

If this is a reply to me, I never once said she has more potential than any other character.

I said she has loads of potential, and it's a great shame that for a character that's been around for more than 40 years, that potential hasn't really been used.

They're entirely different statements.

[jmc247]

I have to reiterate that I'm extremely happy with what I'm getting from Carey's last arc of Legacy so far. I'm honestly considering getting two issues of #255, for the pure and simple reason that I'd want to read one and the other could be left untouched.

Only two? Three minimum for me and more if it's really good.

[salarta]

Only two? Three minimum for me and more if it's really good.

Is that the "one to read, one to sell, one to keep" rule? Or is it just personal preference?

[jmc247]

Is that the "one to read, one to sell, one to keep" rule? Or is it just personal preference?

No rule. It's just it would be nice to have two issues to read at the places I live rather then moving them back and forth which damages them more then keeping them in one place and one to put in a box. Sales of Legacy have been dropping since AoX ended. I would also like to see this issue end the decline.

Oh and if we are really lucky it sells out at the retail level which means we get a new issue with a different variant cover. A few thousand issues more then expected and it sells out. If it gets that it will be because of the cover which is one of the best if not the best X-Men Legacy has ever had and interest in Lorna's family story going forward.