Polaris Appreciation III

[alf_to_the_rescue]

as per usual

Time of the month?

[Seresecros]

I feel near ready to blow up a planet with my menstrual blood

[jmc247]

No X-Factor at my local stores this month so I can't really comment on X-Factor 234.

[Mitteloss]

The reviews don't suggest much happened with Lorna- but apparently Lorna says she was drawn to the vegetation on Earth as she's spent so long away.

[salarta]

The reviews don't suggest much happened with Lorna- but apparently Lorna says she was drawn to the vegetation on Earth as she's spent so long away.

And then subsequently ate it! That's why her hair is so green! OH GOD IT'S SO OBVIOUS, HOW DID I NOT SEE IT BEFORE?!

[bongy]

Nothing really happened in X-Factor Lorna wise. Although, I did enjoy Siryn telling Alex she's had experience leading to shut him up :P

[Havok83]

Is the writing for Lorna good in X-factor? Im not reading the book.

Heres some art I found

[salarta]

So... slightly unrelated.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-superh...st-their-shit/

Was Claremont the writer for the one at the very bottom? It's pretty terrible treatment of Storm regardless of who wrote it, but if it was Claremont then it changes my view of him a bit since I assumed he was practically a Storm fanboy that would never show Storm in weak, pathetic moments. That, in turn, is tied to my view of him as a writer in connection to how he wrote Lorna.

Also, thanks for the pictures, Havok83. We've seen some of those before, but they're still great, especially the one with the silverware.

[blanchett]

So... slightly unrelated.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-superh...st-their-shit/

Was Claremont the writer for the one at the very bottom? It's pretty terrible treatment of Storm regardless of who wrote it, but if it was Claremont then it changes my view of him a bit since I assumed he was practically a Storm fanboy that would never show Storm in weak, pathetic moments. That, in turn, is tied to my view of him as a writer in connection to how he wrote Lorna.

Also, thanks for the pictures, Havok83. We've seen some of those before, but they're still great, especially the one with the silverware.

I don't think it's terrible treatment of a character to have them have a low point. Storm claustrophia developed after a plane crashed into her home and killed her parents. She was stuck right next to her mother's corpse for an unspecified time. I think she's over it now, but all of Claremont's characters had flaws. It's why his run is so well liked. The characters were for the most part two dimensional.

[jmc247]

DS review

After reading Magneto Rex, I had incredibly low expectations for the third mini-series, Dark Seduction. But I figured I’m committed to this reading project and I might as well see it through. I’m glad I did. Fabian Nicieza impressed me with a surprisingly strong story. First of all, he set aside the problem with the premise. The question isn’t “How did Magneto gain control of Genosha?” The real question is “What will Magneto do now that he has it?” Whether Magneto received the country as a gift or invaded of his own accord was immaterial to the issue of subduing opposition, establishing order and rebuilding a nation wracked by war.

Second, Nicieza smartly focused on the main characters. He reduced the roles of Philip Moreau, Jenny Ransome and even Huxley. The story centered upon the relationships between Magneto, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch and Polaris. Their family struggles took center stage. Dark Seduction was a personal affair as much as it was a geopolitical crisis. Later stories, like House of M and Jeff Parker’s Exiles, wisely followed Nicieza’s lead. The underlying problem of the premise is still present in Dark Seduction, but Nicieza allows it to fade into the background while he focuses on more interesting issues like filial resentment, familial rivalry and lust for power.

http://captaincomics.ning.com/profil...ource=activity

The review makes some interesting points.

[blanchett]

I always find it odd that some people thought Dark Seduction was implying that Polaris and Magneto were an "item". The message that she was his daughter or like a daughter was very clear from the emblical cord connecting them and her placement and relationship with the twins.

[salarta]

I don't think it's terrible treatment of a character to have them have a low point. Storm claustrophia developed after a plane crashed into her home and killed her parents. She was stuck right next to her mother's corpse for an unspecified time. I think she's over it now, but all of Claremont's characters had flaws. It's why his run is so well liked. The characters were for the most part two dimensional.

I'm not saying it's "bad writing" to have characters that have flaws, that would be absolutely ridiculous, but the way it was handled in the panels shown off in the Cracked article is horrendous. I'm certain Storm had been in rooms much smaller than a room big enough for all the X-Men to fight in, but even disregarding that (we might be able to excuse it as "the tomb is a place of death, and that helped to trigger her claustrophobia"), the specific panels chosen have Juggernaut making a mockery of her and even Nightcrawler insensitively yelling at her for having a mental breakdown. It's not about Storm having a phobia, it's a combination of how illogical its expression in this case seems, and more importantly how she's treated by even her own teammates for having one.

I'd say X-Men: Evolution handled it better. The root cause of claustrophobia can be pretty damn scary when handled right.

[Havok83]

I always find it odd that some people thought Dark Seduction was implying that Polaris and Magneto were an "item". The message that she was his daughter or like a daughter was very clear from the emblical cord connecting them and her placement and relationship with the twins.

thats the first time I ever heard that

[jmc247]

thats the first time I ever heard that

A few posters some of them seriously, some of them unseriously say they thought the 'Dark Seduction' was meant to be a 'seduction' between Magneto and Lorna... well it was in part, but the idea was she was being seduced to the 'dark' side by the powerful and euphoric feelings of the increased power levels he was helping her to experience (it was made into a drug metaphor) not that she was being romantically seduced. The other part of it in my view was the notion that Magneto was being seduced more and more by leading a country into becoming a dictator with designs to expand Genosha into Africa.



This was 12 years ago, the writers in more recient years having gotten far enough from the Claremontian idea that high use of electromagnetism effects your mind have mostly forgotten or decided to ignore for now that historicaly aspect of their powers.

The other thing they point to is Wanda and Pietro wondering about what Lorna is doing there and the nature of her connection with Magneto which doesn't exactly say anything other then them wondering about why she is his right hand woman on Genosha and goes where he goes. They didn't know she was his connection to the Earth's EM field.



In the actual mini (which sadly as far as I know has never made it to trade paperback) it does focus on the core group of Wanda, Pietro, Lorna, and Magneto and their toughts and interactions with each other in some ways paving the way for future storylines like the reviewer said where this is done and they are royality. But, as for how Lorna was depicted in this. It certainly wasn't as his romantic partner and Blanchett is right that she was repeately talked about and lumped in with Wanda and Pietro by Magneto and the writer.

[blanchett]

I'm not saying it's "bad writing" to have characters that have flaws, that would be absolutely ridiculous, but the way it was handled in the panels shown off in the Cracked article is horrendous. I'm certain Storm had been in rooms much smaller than a room big enough for all the X-Men to fight in, but even disregarding that (we might be able to excuse it as "the tomb is a place of death, and that helped to trigger her claustrophobia"), the specific panels chosen have Juggernaut making a mockery of her and even Nightcrawler insensitively yelling at her for having a mental breakdown. It's not about Storm having a phobia, it's a combination of how illogical its expression in this case seems, and more importantly how she's treated by even her own teammates for having one.

I'd say X-Men: Evolution handled it better. The root cause of claustrophobia can be pretty damn scary when handled right.

Well this was very early on. Storm and Nightcrawler had just joined the X-Men and her behaviour could very well have got them killed. I think they were both overeacting to the stressful situation. I don't she was flipping out solely because the room was small, it was the fact she was underground. She's not good with that either.