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[Cavemold]

What memo, and how does it relate to the conversation people are attempting to have with you?

The memo of self reliance..

[Darrell D.]

It's like saying, 'Hey, the sky is a particularly pretty blue this morning.'
And then someone comes up stinking of Mountain Dew and Cheetos, and says that it is his belief that the sky is in fact, green.
Then he shits his pants and looks at you longingly.

[Joe Rice]

Cavemold, people are actually less likely to have teen pregnancies now than they were in the forties or fifties. Address that.

[Matt Algren]

The memo of self reliance..

And how does it relate to the conversation people are attempting to have with you?

[Iangould]

Ian misspells? When? He uses British/Australian spellings. I don't mind typos but yours are, on occasion, extreme enough to make it difficult to figure out what was originally meant.

I misspell frequently.

Got some nerve damage in mind hands so I tend to transpose letters and I'm often writing at, say, 5 AM (like now) so I often fail to catch my mistakes.

But I also acknowledge my mistakes and try to go back and fix them if they interfere with the comprehensibility of my comments.

[snarkbunny]

I believe in the 40s, 50s parents were more responsible for thier childern. Also, in this day and age we look for the government to solve ALL our problems. I'm saying as a society we need be more self- effecient.

Heh, speaking of the 50s, my godmother likes to tell the story of how when she was first dating my godfather, she was terrified that she was going to get pregnant because they french-kissed since her mother's explanation of the facts of life was a bit too vague. Likewise, a girl in my sister's class had hysterics one day because no one had bothered to explain to her about menstruation and she thought she had some horrible injury from gym class.

Premarital sex happens in every generation and it will continue to do so because we are human. Unfortunately, bad parenting will continue to happen as it has since time immemorial, because we are human.

The government is not some magical entity, it's you and me and a centralization of our society functions. Just like we find it beneficial to centralize and enforce sewage standards, or to provide policing, fire services, etc. In the same way, we look to a centralized education to teach our children how to read, write, hopefully think and reason.

Have you heard the saying "It takes a village to raise a child"? It's not a dereliction of duty to include sex education in our schools, it's the embracing of our duty to provide the next generation (whether they be our children or other people's) the best possible start we can.

[Cavemold]

How about driver's ed - should that be left to the parents too?

I take it as a given your also opposed to all forms of drug eduction in school, that's the parents' job right?

What about religious education, you've pushed in the past for it to be allowed in schools, why is that not best left to ther parents? (Other than you know, all those non-Christian parents failing to teach the right religion.)

. Well drivers Ed went way for funding reasons, but yes all basic fundamentals should be taught from their parents. On teaching religion that should be a separate class. That the parent and child need to agree to.

[snarkbunny]

I misspell frequently.

Got some nerve damage in mind hands so I tend to transpose letters and I'm often writing at, say, 5 AM (like now) so I often fail to catch my mistakes.

But I also acknowledge my mistakes and try to go back and fix them if they interfere with the comprehensibility of my comments.

I've never noticed, Ian. What are you doing up at 5AM anyway?

[Matt Algren]

Heh, speaking of the 50s, my godmother likes to tell the story of how when she was first dating my godfather, she was terrified that she was going to get pregnant because they french-kissed since her mother's explanation of the facts of life was a bit too vague. Likewise, a girl in my sister's class had hysterics one day because no one had bothered to explain to her about menstruation and she thought she had some horrible injury from gym class.

Premarital sex happens in every generation and it will continue to do so because we are human. Unfortunately, bad parenting will continue to happen as it has since time immemorial, because we are human.

The government is not some magical entity, it's you and me and a centralization of our society functions. Just like we find it beneficial to centralize and enforce sewage standards, or to provide policing, fire services, etc. In the same way, we look to a centralized education to teach our children how to read, write, hopefully think and reason.

Have you heard the saying "It takes a village to raise a child"? It's not a dereliction of duty to include sex education in our schools, it's the embracing of our duty to provide the next generation (whether they be our children or other people's) the best possible start we can.

A couple years ago, the church drama group I was in at the time did a dual monologue based on a true account by a woman in a warzone. It included the word "rape." Within an hour of the church service ending, someone complained to the pastor (who had requested that we do it, neener neener) because he didn't want to tell his daughter what rape is.

She was 14.

[Cavemold]

And how does it relate to the conversation people are attempting to have with you?

I have been arguing the the lack of self -reliance is a problem.

[Matt Algren]

. Well drivers Ed went way for funding reasons, but yes all basic fundamentals should be taught from their parents. On teaching religion that should be a separate class. That the parent and child need to agree to.

No it didn't, and please define "basic fundamentals." Why should religion classes be present in the public school system, and which religions should be included?

[Iangould]

On an unrelated subject, What does anyone think of Republican governor of Michigan,Rick Snyder? He seems like an intelligent politician who is actually a sane moderate republican.

It's late here and I may be misremembering but isn't he the guy who wanted to make it illegal for public employees to unionize and who has appointed state administrators to take over many towns and counties and kicked out the eelcted councils?

[Iangould]

I've never noticed, Ian. What are you doing up at 5AM anyway?

I have insomnia.

A lot.

[Matt Algren]

I have been arguing the the lack of self -reliance is a problem.

Your post seems to indicate that your thesis, such as it is, has been agreed upon. It hasn't. In fact, people have given you specific examples of why you're wrong, which you've ignored.

[Matt Algren]

It's late here and I may be misremembering but isn't he the guy who wanted to make it illegal for public employees to unionize and who has appointed state administrators to take over many towns and counties and kicked out the eelcted councils?

One and the same.