All-purpose news and politics thread

[the4thpip]

Oh and the raw math of the Greek "renegotiation" because they don't want to make E15 billion in additional cuts, the Left coalition are putting at risk E98 Billion in loans still to be disbursed under the rescue deal.

So unless the EU inexplicably decides to "renegotiate", Greece's public finances will be worse off to the tune of around E110 billion. But I'm sure private lenders will be rushing in, fighting each other for the privilege of lending that amount to a government with a platform that is pretty much solely based on refusing to pay its debts.

But those €110 billion would just have gone into the pockets of corrupt politicians anyway, right?

[Iangould]

But those €110 billion would just have gone into the pockets of corrupt politicians anyway, right?

Well, obviously.

[Iangould]

So you know how those crazy European socialists all overspent and borrowed massively thereby causing their current economic problems?

Not so much.

[the4thpip]

Kim Jong-un : Quite a ride.

[Jeff Brady]

Kim Jong-un : Quite a ride.

Is there a translation available?

[Vibranium]

Im sure you all have heard about the North Carolina amendment 1 debacle

[the4thpip]

Is there a translation available?

Oops, I had already looked up the story in English but then inserted the wrong link anyway:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ys-future.html

[Michael P]

Im sure you all have heard about the North Carolina amendment 1 debacle

Read up a few posts.

[Charles RB]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/0...-sex-marriage/

In not that many decades, another generation of North Carolina citizens will look at their past in shame.

Again.

Aren't some of the southern states going to get tired of being seen as The Bigot Ones at some point? Preferably soon.

The argument that gays are asking for more than equal rights because everyone has the right to marry someone of the opposite gender is the most laughable (like that cock you were speaking to over twitter the other day)

I ran that by my 11-year-old son this afternoon, and he was speechless. ... "wow. That's stupid."

Adults have attempted to point out the logic flaws in that argument for years. The eleven-year-old beats them all.

Your son should be a Speaker of Commons.

[Vibranium]

when things like this happen below the Mason Dixon Line, I am not surprised...I honestly think we are going to hit a point in this country where there will be "social segregation", all the wife beating, homophobic racists will have their little stronghold of states and then everyone else who has common sense

[thespianphryne]

when things like this happen below the Mason Dixon Line, I am not surprised...I honestly think we are going to hit a point in this country where there will be "social segregation", all the wife beating, homophobic racists will have their little stronghold of states and then everyone else who has common sense

OMG! How dare you talk that way about Queens.

[Matt Algren]

North Carolina, then and now.

Attachment 93039

It seems the only thing that's changed is that the pictures are in color now.

Also, the average body mass index of bigots has gone up considerably.

And blue jeans. We loooooove denim now.

[Matt Algren]

In related news that should surprise absolutely no one:

GAY MEN FACE INORDINATELY HIGH RATES OF HATE-MOTIVATED VIOLENCE

A new analysis of FBI hate crimes statistics by The Williams Institute finds that gay men face significantly higher rates of hate-motivated violence than other targeted groups. In fact, gay men are the victims of hate-motivated crimes against their person at five times the rate of African Americans and Jewish Americans. They also face the second highest risk of being victims of hate-motivated property crime. Considering hate crimes are largely under-reported and crimes based on sexual orientation tend to be more violent, the picture may be even more troubling than the data suggest.

[Dreadstar]

when things like this happen below the Mason Dixon Line, I am not surprised...I honestly think we are going to hit a point in this country where there will be "social segregation", all the wife beating, homophobic racists will have their little stronghold of states and then everyone else who has common sense

Interesting. I wonder if this kind of thinking was brought up when California did much the same thing a couple years ago? Damned West Coast hicks. I can only hope the N.C. law goes the same route as it did out there. Heck, my own state passed the same thing almost 10 years ago, but the Mason-Dixon line is on our southern border. (sort of)

Face it, there are small-minded and bigoted people EVERYWHERE. Even in what's sometimes considered the most progressive state in the union. Pointing at N.C. and categorizing their population as a single backward entity tends to be counterproductive.

I'd much prefer to address the douches who introduced the law in the first place and their campaign deception of the voting populace rather than the populace as a whole.

[Vibranium]

with Prop 8 out in Cali, a large number of the votes supporting it came from the Latino and Black communities....due to the culture of being anti-LGBT and that the anti Prop 8 crowd did little to no campaigning in those neighborhoods

I remember seeing an interview shortly after it passed and an interview with an activist...and the question asked was "why didn't you campaign/rally in the black or latino neighborhoods?" the answer "they would have thrown us out"

now it was overturned and that is all moot, but yes there are close minded folks everywhere...the question is how do you change that?