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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    *Rolling my eyes*

    Enough with Coulson. You can see him ham it up in Ultimate Spider-Man.




    in honor of the show in question

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBGoode View Post
    Do these two shows even take place in the same universe? I've been wondering this but it seems the two shows have different versions of a number of heroes so I'm guessing they do not.

    Can anyone clarify this?

    BTW, I love EMH. Let's just say that I'm over 40 and never thought I'd be loving superhero cartoons but this is very well done!
    Loeb seems to think so, but then again, Loeb's not exactly someone who I'm too keen on taking input from after what he did to the UU.
    Holding out for a Peter/Miles team up.

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    Quake was awesome i hope they give her that costume in the comics

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    EMh reminded me how good the initial run up and Concept of Secret invasion was, i just hope the actual conflict is better
    Last edited by Zen-aku; 05-13-2012 at 07:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    Quake was awesome i hope they give her that costume in the comics

    also

    EMh reminded me how good the initial run up and Concept of Secret invasion was, i just hope the actual conflict is better
    Well being Animated will give it a headstart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    Well being Animated will give it a headstart.
    Probably, SI wasn't completley bad it just didn't do any thing interesting once the actual invasion started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    Probably, SI wasn't completley bad it just didn't do any thing interesting once the actual invasion started.
    Not to mention it was gory for the sake of being gory. Also, let's not forget the Avengers murdered the innocent skrulls in cold blood and they had no repercussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    Not to mention it was gory for the sake of being gory. Also, let's not forget the Avengers murdered the innocent skrulls in cold blood and they had no repercussions.
    it was war, and the fuckers weren't that innocent, their memories were jsut fucked up


    all comics are gory now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    it was war, and the fuckers weren't that innocent, their memories were jsut fucked up


    all comics are gory now a days.
    They were still prisoners, and executing prisoners who aren't fighting back is a warcrime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lascoden View Post
    They were still prisoners, and executing prisoners who aren't fighting back is a warcrime.
    even if the skrulls were covered under the Geneva convention, the skrulls would of violated it a hundred times before that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    Not to mention it was gory for the sake of being gory. Also, let's not forget the Avengers murdered the innocent skrulls in cold blood and they had no repercussions.
    If you're talking about the skrulls posing as heroes the Avengers killed in the Savage Land, they weren't really innocent. They were skrull soldiers attempting to invade the earth. This was all a part of their plan to distract the Avengers and prevent them from stopping the Invasion.

    If you don't wanna be killed, don't become an enemy spy attempting to invade someone else's planet.

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    if your going to use psychological and emotional warfare as a tactic you don't get to complain when u piss off your enemy combatants

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    If you're talking about the skrulls posing as heroes the Avengers killed in the Savage Land, they weren't really innocent. They were skrull soldiers attempting to invade the earth. This was all a part of their plan to distract the Avengers and prevent them from stopping the Invasion.

    If you don't wanna be killed, don't become an enemy spy attempting to invade someone else's planet.
    They state in the tie in that they didn't know anything that was going on either. They did believe they were heroes and they were killed before they had the chance.

    And honestly, why is it good to kill soldiers and bad to kill murderous psychos like Bullseye?


    all comics are gory now a days.
    And it's depressing.

    even if the skrulls were covered under the Geneva convention, the skrulls would of violated it a hundred times before that point.
    So should we kill all Afghanistan people on sight just because a few broke those rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    They state in the tie in that they didn't know anything that was going on either. They did believe they were heroes and they were killed before they had the chance.

    And honestly, why is it good to kill soldiers and bad to kill murderous psychos like Bullseye?




    And it's depressing.



    So should we kill all Afghanistan people on sight just because a few broke those rules?
    The fact that they believed they were heroes didn't change the fact that they're still invading skrulls actively trying to assist in taking over the earth (whether they know it or not). And prior to Reed showing up the skrulls were basically threatening the Avengers. It's not like they formally surrendered or even called for a cease fire... it was still a combat situation. Had they formally surrendered I might feel differently but they didn't.

    And I'm not really saying it's necessarily good to kill soldiers, or Bullseye for that matter... but it's not like they really had any practical means of imprisoning them either. Spidey webbing them up to a palm tree or something wouldn't cut it. It was a war scenario and the invasion was going on right now. Really, the only logical thing to do was kill them and rush back to New York. It's messy... but really it was their only practical option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    The fact that they believed they were heroes didn't change the fact that they're still invading skrulls actively trying to assist in taking over the earth (whether they know it or not). And prior to Reed showing up the skrulls were basically threatening the Avengers. It's not like they formally surrendered or even called for a cease fire... it was still a combat situation. Had they formally surrendered I might feel differently but they didn't.

    And I'm not really saying it's necessarily good to kill soldiers, or Bullseye for that matter... but it's not like they really had any practical means of imprisoning them either. Spidey webbing them up to a palm tree or something wouldn't cut it. It was a war scenario and the invasion was going on right now. Really, the only logical thing to do was kill them and rush back to New York. It's messy... but really it was their only practical option.
    Still just seems needlessly cruel and out of character.
    Especially since worst monsters lurk the Marvel Universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    Still just seems needlessly cruel and out of character.
    Especially since worst monsters lurk the Marvel Universe.
    Again, what else could they practically have done?

    That's really the problem here. If there's no better more practical option and they're in the middle of an invasion, then I don't think it's cruel. Or at least no less cruel than deciding to invade someone else's planet in the first place. It's not like the Avengers asked for this... all they can do is stop them any way they can.

    There may be worse monsters lurking around, but in many of those cases there are other options besides killing them. They can ususally just beat them up and toss them into Rikers Island. This is a different situation.

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