Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Huh. I wonder if there's a possibility (however slight) that Spidey and Luke Cage's cameos in A:EMH will be tweaked to fit in with USM.

Good Gods, I hope not!

Uh, what? Are you saying that Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers share a Universe? I thought that was debunked?

Loeb is spewing BS that they are in a recent interview.

[wyokid]

Uh, what? Are you saying that Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers share a Universe? I thought that was debunked?

Nope. Loeb confirmed that they are in the same universe.

[Jabare]

This is what happens when you allow the comic guys to dictate continuity on a television show. Cartoons rarely have any glaring continuity problems, but this will open up a whole big bag of worms

[Balfro]

Nope. Loeb confirmed that they are in the same universe.

Well first of all that's crap. Wolverine and the X-men, Hulk vs., and Avengers EMH are all relatively serious cartoons with subtle humor. Ultimate Spidey is the exact opposite.

Second, your theory of Ultimate Spidey taking place in the past can't be true because in Avengers they find Captain America but in Ultimate Spidey he's already around.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Video for episode 4:

http://marvel.com/news/story/18475/u...sode_4_preview

Good god, what did they do to Flash and Venom?!

[Drz]

Uh, what? Are you saying that Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers share a Universe? I thought that was debunked?

It is, but then Jeph Loeb came spewing his bullshit and some people decided to actually listen to him.

[wyokid]

Well first of all that's crap. Wolverine and the X-men, Hulk vs., and Avengers EMH are all relatively serious cartoons with subtle humor. Ultimate Spidey is the exact opposite.

Second, your theory of Ultimate Spidey taking place in the past can't be true because in Avengers they find Captain America but in Ultimate Spidey he's already around.

Just because the tones are different doesn't mean they can't be in the same universe.

[marvelgeek]

It makes me sad reading alot of the comments in this thread. So many negative things said about a show just starting. Why can't we just accept different takes on characters instead of senseless "NO! IT"S NOT LIKE THE COMIC/Character origin/story is different, I HATE IT!!" :(

[MarvelMaster616]

Video for episode 4:

http://marvel.com/news/story/18475/u...sode_4_preview

Good god, what did they do to Flash and Venom?!

I actually think this looks pretty promising. Venom did bond with Flash in the comics and in most of the cartoons, Venom has only really bonded with Peter or Eddie Brock. I think this could be a nice change of pace. It still depends on how well the colorful humor is balanced with the more serious aspects of the series. But I am willing to give this series plenty of chances because despite my criticisms, I still think it has potential.

As for the shared universe, I follow Chris Yost who is the head writer for Avengers EMH on Twitter. His response was similar to Loeb's. He says anything is possible and I would be shocked if Marvel didn't attempt some sort of cross-promotion with their shows, especially since they're on the same channel in the same programming block.

[Sebastos]

[o_O]

The comic has been confirmed to be in continuity with the show. For example, it explains how Abomination joined the Masters of Evil when there was no indication in the show.

Heavy doubts on that. While cartoons and comics based on them are supposed to be same canon, they usually end up being their own thing. Pretty much like how the USM video game was supposed to be canon with the comic but wasn't (although they did a similar version of the story later).

For starters, he went rogue toward the end of Avengers season 1 and is still MIA.

And? Bets are he won't stay that way. :D

But Avengers doesn't take more than months, not whole years. Loki's plan, Maria Hill's determination to have the heroes registered, the heroes being heroes, noone of this lasts for years, simply months. The fact you're honest faced willing to lie to yourself and try and convince others this is true, is petty.

We don't know that, it's not like they provided dates like Young Justice. Avengers season 1 could have taken place over the course of a year or two if they wanted.

Well too bad Craig Kyle and Christopher Yost disagree with you. They're the story editors.

Nice! Doubting it, though. I have yet to see a comic running same time as a cartoon where the events are supposed to be canon in both (we see a scene or reference from the comic in the cartoon, for example). Closest I've seen is the Batman animated where they did a version of Mad Love and that was a straight adaptation of the entire story. I can see the comic referencing the 'toon, but not vice versa.

Loeb Disagrees with you:

Nope, looks like he's agreeing with me there! I already mentioned there was a Nova Corps. Besides, where is it stated anywhere there that Rich Rider existed in either EMH or USM? He's talking about the comics. :D

If you actually believe this, you really are lying to yourself to convince your fan fiction theories.

Umm...que? What fan fiction? I'm just saying how easy it would be to make the two series fit together. They're overseen by the same animation studio and are both part of Marvel's new animation block. When you have comics like Deadpool Corps occurring in the same universe as the current Punisher then yup, I see no problem with two shows with different styles and methods of storytelling happening in the same continuity. :D

Months.

Could be a couple years, though. :D

[derekakadrock]

Heavy doubts on that. While cartoons and comics based on them are supposed to be same canon, they usually end up being their own thing. Pretty much like how the USM video game was supposed to be canon with the comic but wasn't (although they did a similar version of the story later).

Believe what you want. It's straight from the creators' mouths.

And? Bets are he won't stay that way. :D

Yes, but you can't have USM take place between both Avengers seasons if Nick Fury has also gone rogue in between them.

[Drz]

Heavy doubts on that. While cartoons and comics based on them are supposed to be same canon, they usually end up being their own thing. Pretty much like how the USM video game was supposed to be canon with the comic but wasn't (although they did a similar version of the story later).

Again, you completely ignore what the actual makers of both seasons have said and refuse to accept reality. You can lie to yourself all you want, just keep that bullshit to yourself.

We don't know that, it's not like they provided dates like Young Justice. Avengers season 1 could have taken place over the course of a year or two if they wanted.

Sure, the Odin Sleep + the Comatose lasted years, Maria Hill wanting the Avengers to register took years, the Heroes starting as heroes didn't take a few months with their Asgard adventures but entire years, yes everyone was a slow poke, clearly. Watch the actual show.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Nice! Doubting it, though. I have yet to see a comic running same time as a cartoon where the events are supposed to be canon in both (we see a scene or reference from the comic in the cartoon, for example). Closest I've seen is the Batman animated where they did a version of Mad Love and that was a straight adaptation of the entire story. I can see the comic referencing the 'toon, but not vice versa.

Young Justice is doing that, actually. The comic is few months behind, but it does directly refer to, and even recreates, several scenes from the show.

[marvelgeek]

Again, you completely ignore what the actual makers of both seasons have said and refuse to accept reality. You can lie to yourself all you want, just keep that bullshit to yourself.



Sure, the Odin Sleep + the Comatose lasted years, Maria Hill wanting the Avengers to register took years, the Heroes starting as heroes didn't take a few months with their Asgard adventures but entire years, yes everyone was a slow poke, clearly. Watch the actual show.

Do you have to be so rude about it when talking about you think? Reading all your comments just makes me think you're a cynic