The other tread got me thinking...Mattie was killed as a sacrifice to resurrect Kraven. Was that an instance of evil winning? Or do we have to take the longer view and recall that the Familia Kraven was (sort of) defeated? And, was that a death in vain, as she didn't even die in the midst of a fight, but was drugged and offered up as a sacrifice, so it's not even a "heroic" sort of death? And was her death a bigger "win" for evil that Mephisto's?