Power Girl

[gwydion]

She couldn't handle Linux, but she can understand Mr. T's plans? Helena already said "computer security", translated: code, is easier on this world than theirs. This is supposed to be a genius raised with an advanced civilization. She literally said "I'm too dumb, but I'll bet I can use my body to manipulate men to get what I want." That is the definition of "typical blonde bimbo".

She evidently still in this incarnation understands her own people's science and tech, which is evidently FAR beyond anything on either Earth. From what she was saying, it seems as if Levitz is trying to impart that she doesn't understand Earth tech that well because it's so much more primitive. But then he goes and ruins that thought by having her say she needs some Earth geniuses to figure out the dimensional transport aspect, the physics of it, which she should know far better than any human given her people's science that she evidently understands. She seems to be saying that she could eventually figure it out herself, but she needs humans to do it faster.

In other words, it isn't just that she's apparently not as smart as she was prior to the reboot, but also that she's inconsistent in her intellect.

I don't think Levitz had a clear plan of what he wanted to do with her and Hunts in that respect. I think that he wanted to make Helena the brains, (witness PG uncharacteristically deferring to her in an attempt to find a plan to defeat Hakkou), and took the lazy way out by trying to make Kara dumb in comparison. Then he realized he couldn't have the super-smart alien who could handle tech well if he wanted Kara to be dumber than Helena.

Compare that to how Superman and Batman are portrayed, or were portrayed together in their series. Superman knew science and tech, and was far from stupid. he could come up with his own plans to beat the bad guys. It was simply that Batman was THE master tactician and strategist, and Superman would defer at times to that.

It would have been better if Kara had been like that, with Helena playing Batman to her Superman in that respect.

[42n8s1]

She evidently still in this incarnation understands her own people's science and tech, which is evidently FAR beyond anything on either Earth. From what she was saying, it seems as if Levitz is trying to impart that she doesn't understand Earth tech that well because it's so much more primitive. But then he goes and ruins that thought by having her say she needs some Earth geniuses to figure out the dimensional transport aspect, the physics of it, which she should know far better than any human given her people's science that she evidently understands. She seems to be saying that she could eventually figure it out herself, but she needs humans to do it faster.

In other words, it isn't just that she's apparently not as smart as she was prior to the reboot, but also that she's inconsistent in her intellect.

I don't think Levitz had a clear plan of what he wanted to do with her and Hunts in that respect. I think that he wanted to make Helena the brains, (witness PG uncharacteristically deferring to her in an attempt to find a plan to defeat Hakkou), and took the lazy way out by trying to make Kara dumb in comparison. Then he realized he couldn't have the super-smart alien who could handle tech well if he wanted Kara to be dumber than Helena.

Compare that to how Superman and Batman are portrayed, or were portrayed together in their series. Superman knew science and tech, and was far from stupid. he could come up with his own plans to beat the bad guys. It was simply that Batman was THE master tactician and strategist, and Superman would defer at times to that.

It would have been better if Kara had been like that, with Helena playing Batman to her Superman in that respect.

Completely agree.

[JSA]

Completely agree.

That Bimbo is not MY Power Girl

[MarkRodriguez12]

Of course not. YOUR Power Girl is gone for good. This is the new 52. The only one unchanged is Batman. Anyways here are my thoughts on the issue at hand. Any feel free to leave comments to agree or disagree.

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspo...er-girl-3.html

[DCfan101]

I thought the Power Girl from old Earth-two (one from pre-crisis multiverse) is much more interesting then this new Power Girl from the new Earth 2.

Maybe they could have made it so that Flashpoint never erased old Power Girl. After all, she somehow survived COIE (even though reality tried to change her she still got her memories back from her life on earth-two), so it would have been interesting in showing the old Power Girl to still be existing in this new DCnU earth.

After all, in the post-crisis DCU (pre flashpoint) we had characters from the pre-crisis multiverse (superboy prime, power girl, original superman, etc). So i would not have minded if DCU allowed at least one character from the old DCU to somehow survive flashpoint without any changes to them.

[gwydion]

Personally, I'd like DC to make the pre-reboot DCU one of the 52 universes, so maybe when this one fails, they can simply revert back. Or at least put out a line like Marvel's Ultimates with books from that universe.

[MarkRodriguez12]

I thought the Power Girl from old Earth-two (one from pre-crisis multiverse) is much more interesting then this new Power Girl from the new Earth 2.

Maybe they could have made it so that Flashpoint never erased old Power Girl. After all, she somehow survived COIE (even though reality tried to change her she still got her memories back from her life on earth-two), so it would have been interesting in showing the old Power Girl to still be existing in this new DCnU earth.

After all, in the post-crisis DCU (pre flashpoint) we had characters from the pre-crisis multiverse (superboy prime, power girl, original superman, etc). So i would not have minded if DCU allowed at least one character from the old DCU to somehow survive flashpoint without any changes to them.

That's what I said since day 1. It was the perfect chance to say Power Girl somehow survived and is somehow adapting to the new52. They didn't have to waste time making an Earth2.... the pre-Flashpoint Earth is already Earth 2....

[Sacred Knight]

Ugh, no thanks. The second DC relaunch of which Power Girl inexplicably survives it again completely unscathed while everyone else is altered? Its an entirely tired concept.

The route they chose is better on every level. She's rebooted along with everyone else, but by being from another parallel Earth in the multiverse, they can still play with the fish out of water concept. Its a completely organic way of having your cake and eating it too. Once again saying she just escaped alteration for no particular reason and is a relic of the pre-Flashpoint world would have been so contrived.

[Badou]

Sure the concept they thought of is pretty good but the execution so far leaves much to be desired, though I know it is early.

[Sacred Knight]

Oh I know your mileage may vary when it comes to the execution (I'm enjoying it so far but plenty aren't), but its a much more promising concept. Power Girl will grow and change, different writers will write her, and hell maybe she'll get another costume at some point. All the while being done to a character that actually fits into the scheme of this universe, and not some needless relic of the past just for an excuse to say some remnant of the old continuity exists.

So even though not everyone may not be digging her current title, hopefully there's solice in the fact that there's tons of room for this character to be shaped. When all is said and done this was the smart move. She'll benefit for it in the long run, I'd bet anything on it. Whereas if they went the other route and left her unchanged, once the new 52 became ensconsed as simply the DC Universe, the appeal of her non-origin would quickly fade and the character would become lost again.

[fly on the wall]

I thought the Power Girl from old Earth-two (one from pre-crisis multiverse) is much more interesting then this new Power Girl from the new Earth 2.

Maybe they could have made it so that Flashpoint never erased old Power Girl. After all, she somehow survived COIE (even though reality tried to change her she still got her memories back from her life on earth-two), so it would have been interesting in showing the old Power Girl to still be existing in this new DCnU earth.

After all, in the post-crisis DCU (pre flashpoint) we had characters from the pre-crisis multiverse (superboy prime, power girl, original superman, etc). So i would not have minded if DCU allowed at least one character from the old DCU to somehow survive flashpoint without any changes to them.

Indeed, whatever they make of PG in this DCnU, there is no reason why she couldn't eventually remember just who she is, namely Kal-L's cousin from the original Earth 2. There is no reason why this can not be done, they haven't rebooted away the existence of other dimensions, there is no reason why PG can't be from another dimension. Any other dimension they choose.

[Mortuary Guy]

Personally, I'd like DC to make the pre-reboot DCU one of the 52 universes, so maybe when this one fails, they can simply revert back. Or at least put out a line like Marvel's Ultimates with books from that universe.

I agree. It help keep fans of the old and fans of the new. Plus, I miss the old Superman without the armor.

[Sacred Knight]

Indeed, whatever they make of PG in this DCnU, there is no reason why she couldn't eventually remember just who she is, namely Kal-L's cousin from the original Earth 2. There is no reason why this can not be done, they haven't rebooted away the existence of other dimensions, there is no reason why PG can't be from another dimension. Any other dimension they choose.

There's one good reason why it couldn't be done--mainly that it makes absolutely no sense. Flashpoint rebooted the multiverse, not just the main Earth.

[116ekg]

I try and read the previews for this book each time they are posted, hoping that Power Girl shows some glimpse of her former, awesome self...and every single time I am disappointed.

I have started to just go back and read her solo series. It is mind-blowing how good it is.

[IronMagnus]

Karen knows the new costume sucks.