CBR: WC11: DC Universe

[CBR News]

DC Comics brought an array of creators to WonderCon to discuss what's to come in "Flashpoint," the ending of "Justice League: Generation Lost," "Justice League of America," "Green Arrow," "The Flash" and more.


Full article here.

[starman]

White Lantern is Swamp Thing. At least I hope he is.

[starman]

Well bleeding cool just announced who the White Lantern is. 12 minutes after I posted my the above post. Weird.

[ian33407]

Well bleeding cool just announced who the White Lantern is. 12 minutes after I posted my the above post. Weird.

I'll be EIC, I'll give you a job (!)

' The return of SWAMP THING ' : THIS is good news...

[blastbeatz]

I went to this panel and left half way through. It was almost uncomfortable to watch. It was awesome seeing the Green Lantern footage though.

[Schnitzy Pretzelpants]

I went to this panel and left half way through. It was almost uncomfortable to watch. It was awesome seeing the Green Lantern footage though.

Can I ask why?

The reason I ask is that I did much the same thing at Emerald City, and because I was pretty embarrassed and irritated as the session progressed - I'll get into specifics if you do.

[stewart48]

When you toy with the idea that the white lantern could be a force for good and evil, what can you possibly do to shock anyone.

[blastbeatz]

Can I ask why?

The reason I ask is that I did much the same thing at Emerald City, and because I was pretty embarrassed and irritated as the session progressed - I'll get into specifics if you do.

Yeah no prob! It just seemed weird to me. I cant recall the person who was moderating but he was terrible at it. There were a lot of awkward pauses in between questions where I wasn't sure if they were waiting for a crowd reaction or if they just didn't properly prepare things to say. While I understand they can't say anything about current or future projects they basically only gave one word replies to each question they were being asked which gave the moderator a hard time to have anything to add/transition. They showed covers to comics that have been solicited for a while and almost acted surprised when they didn't get much fan fare since we have all seen them a ton of times.

I didn't attend this panel looking for tons of answers but I did want the creators to seem somewhat enthusiastic but it was just a lot of awkward silence.

[Schnitzy Pretzelpants]

Yeah no prob! It just seemed weird to me. I cant recall the person who was moderating but he was terrible at it. There were a lot of awkward pauses in between questions where I wasn't sure if they were waiting for a crowd reaction or if they just didn't properly prepare things to say. While I understand they can't say anything about current or future projects they basically only gave one word replies to each question they were being asked which gave the moderator a hard time to have anything to add/transition. They showed covers to comics that have been solicited for a while and almost acted surprised when they didn't get much fan fare since we have all seen them a ton of times.

I didn't attend this panel looking for tons of answers but I did want the creators to seem somewhat enthusiastic but it was just a lot of awkward silence.

Pretty much what happened at Emerald City too - except it was Bob Harras who was moderating. I actually have a lot of time for the guy, but I think - just my opinion - that he's been saddled with a DC Universe that, while it has some truly great pockets to it, I think the DCU taken as a whole, is kind of a mess right now.

The other thing was that the level of questions being asked were sad indeed. Really trite fanboy whining mixed with almost completely uncritical praise, but mostly consisting of 'why did you change 'x's' costume?' and 'when are we going to see 'y' again?' - that sort of stuff.

Twice, a guy behind me, in response to the embarrasing level of questions, muttered under his breath: 'Oh I am so done." The second time he said it, I thought: "Yeah, me too" and got up and left with him following close behind.

The really pathetic thing was Bob Harras had a box of donuts and said:"Anyone asking a really fantastic question gets a donut" Something to that effect - great, intelligent, clever, questions will be rewarded basically, you get the idea - well, he very quickly started simply giving a donut to everyone who asked a question, because ALL the questions sucked.

Nothing like the DCU panels were a few years back - around the time of Infinite Crisis - they rocked.

[Scavenger]

"It's really Barry's journey, and I think it's one of those things that, at the end of 'Flashpoint,' we'll respect who Barry is and it'll bring forth why he's important to the DCU. Maybe even more so than Crisis [on Infinite Earths]," Manapul added.

Why does this statement depress me?

[Free-Man]

I wish Francis was drawing a book I liked.

[Kiryu]

Why does this statement depress me?

Because that's the line they use about every Barry story since they brought him back.

I mean, stop trying to justify it and morph the DCU into this place where Barry Allen specifically was so needed. He isn't needed if you have to construct special storylines fine-tuned to show why he is useful o.O

The modern Barry Allen stories would be much better if they were less about sitting us down and being like "Listen man everyone likes Barry, he's awesome." and just showed stories where he is great.

And uh, how did CoIE show us how important Barry was? It was a mercy killing at that point.

We all know the reason Barry is back, to streamline the franchises so they can be sold to other mediums with more ease and with more similarities to the comics.

Stop wasting time trying to make Barry the best, it doesn't make him interesting to read about, imo.

It's really frustrating because there is a lot of potential to tell new and interesting stories with Barry but they just go with the same old crap and this highlander mentality that serves no-one.

[Schnitzy Pretzelpants]

Because that's the line they use about every Barry story since they brought him back.

I mean, stop trying to justify it and morph the DCU into this place where Barry Allen specifically was so needed. He isn't needed if you have to construct special storylines fine-tuned to show why he is useful o.O

The modern Barry Allen stories would be much better if they were less about sitting us down and being like "Listen man everyone likes Barry, he's awesome." and just showed stories where he is great.

And uh, how did CoIE show us how important Barry was? It was a mercy killing at that point.

We all know the reason Barry is back, to streamline the franchises so they can be sold to other mediums with more ease and with more similarities to the comics.

Stop wasting time trying to make Barry the best, it doesn't make him interesting to read about, imo.

It's really frustrating because there is a lot of potential to tell new and interesting stories with Barry but they just go with the same old crap and this highlander mentality that serves no-one.

You've hit the nail on the head - couldn't agree more.

It's seeming like when someone is in a relationship where they are trying so hard to tell all their friends how great their partner is, but they are really just trying to convince themselves.

The problem is that when they brought Hal back, I think they had some ideas and arcs in the back of their minds, but I really don't feel that was so much the case with Barry. I feel like their developed ideas stopped somewhere after "Let's bring Barry back!"

[Seven_Ride]

I mean, stop trying to justify it and morph the DCU into this place where Barry Allen specifically was so needed.

So DC should not make it seem that one of their most important characters - one they're doing an event about this year - is important?

They certainly do that with all their other primary characers, so why not Flash?

The modern Barry Allen stories would be much better if they were less about sitting us down and being like "Listen man everyone likes Barry, he's awesome." and just showed stories where he is great.

I agree; that was definitely a flaw in Flash Rebirth, for me. However the ongoing series doesn't do that, and is in fact a really good superhero comic.

Sounds like you haven't read it. Maybe you might like it.

[dumbstruck]

The modern Barry Allen stories would be much better if they were less about sitting us down and being like "Listen man everyone likes Barry, he's awesome." and just showed stories where he is great.

This comes as no surprise. The same writer did the same thing with GL.