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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    If he's dead then how is Captain America and Bucky going to work. It's supposed to be stories told from Bucky's point of view. Maybe it's from heaven or something. On other terms- why did Fraction have to kill him? ...After all Brubaker went through in bringing him back.
    It's set during WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose967 View Post
    It's set during WWII.
    No, not exclusively as there are flashbacks to Buck's Winter Soldier days as well. We'll just have to wait and see, Marvel have been avoiding the subject as to Bucky's future for obvious reasons.

    Its interesting whether this is permanent or not. Sorry if this is subject matter that belongs more in the FI#3 thread, but I think its equally prevalent here.

    I know a lot of fans such as myself, have thought that anything that happens to Bucky has to be under Brubaker considering he's basically been Ed's character since he brought Buck back as the Winter Soldier. There is this sense that if Ed doesn't write it, it won't stick. I honestly hope thats the case, seeing Buck in a role similar to what he had before he became Cap, working for Fury doing more spy-related activities.

    But remember one thing, Ed was initially offered the chance to co-write Fear Itself with Matt Fraction, as the basis around the event is that its a crossover event with Thor and Captain America. Ed later chose not to co-write the mini, just write the prelude himself. So Ed would be able to approve of whatever happens to "his" characters in the event, seeing as he more than likely worked out most of the major plot points with Fraction at the beginning anyway.

    Just a theory... I really hope its not the case.

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    Straight from Fraction's Twitter- "I'll never be able to thank @brubaker enough for *giving* me the end of FEAR ITSELF #3"

    Unfortunate news. Still hope it's not true. If he is in fact dead (again) I'm dropping Fear Itself and all the tie-ins.
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    I still trust in Brubaker.
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    I dont totally think he is dead, skeptical at this point. But really, he should be dead, in fact he never should have been revived.

    I like Bucky as much as the next person now but his death is part of the reason Cap was and is who is characteristically. Its part of his history when Bucky died. Bucky is kind of like what Uncle Ben is to Spiderman. Not totally that extreme but same concept.
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    So unfortunate. I'd be interested in a book that tells Winter Soldier stories, but otherwise, I'm dropping Captain America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Don't worry he will be back in about forty years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    I love how they're all patting each other on the back, yeah NOBODY saw this coming, and it was such a well executed and emotional death... Riiiiight.
    Have they even read what people are posting?

    Quote Originally Posted by zur en arrh View Post
    So unfortunate. I'd be interested in a book that tells Winter Soldier stories, but otherwise, I'm dropping Captain America.
    Yeah pretty much what was left of the Avengers books on my pull list are gone now. I'll still pick up Cap and Bucky, for Samnee's art more than anything. But with all this Cap #1 is starting to look pretty uninteresting to me. Though Falcon's in that book... guess I'll have to wait and see.

    I dunno, FI #3 has just deflated me of any interest I have in the Avengers at the moment. If not for PunisherMAX, Waid on DD and Rucka on Punisher it would probably have turned me off Marvel all together at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Holograph View Post
    I love how they're all patting each other on the back, yeah NOBODY saw this coming, and it was such a well executed and emotional death... Riiiiight.
    Have they even read what people are posting?
    I know, right. They were twisting the knife even

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComicsAreForFun View Post

    I like Bucky as much as the next person now but his death is part of the reason Cap was and is who is characteristically. Its part of his history when Bucky died. Bucky is kind of like what Uncle Ben is to Spiderman. Not totally that extreme but same concept.
    Load of bull. His first death was actually a retcon made by Stan Lee. Captain America and Bucky actually both came out of the war alive and fought communists in 50s comics, which were later canceled due to low sales. Stan Lee retconned it so that Bucky died and Cap was frozen in ice when the Avengers found him.

    His death may have at one point been important to the character, but its lost its relevance over the years. They can't always go back to it, it gets boring. Bringing him back and having Steve feel guilty about letting him become the Winter Soldier made it relevant again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Of Orphans View Post
    Load of bull. His first death was actually a retcon made by Stan Lee. Captain America and Bucky actually both came out of the war alive and fought communists in 50s comics, which were later canceled due to low sales. Stan Lee retconned it so that Bucky died and Cap was frozen in ice when the Avengers found him.

    His death may have at one point been important to the character, but its lost its relevance over the years. They can't always go back to it, it gets boring. Bringing him back and having Steve feel guilty about letting him become the Winter Soldier made it relevant again.
    Wasnt the 50s Cap someone else? Still he should have stayed dead, made him more iconic
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComicsAreForFun View Post
    Wasnt the 50s Cap someone else? Still he should have stayed dead, made him more iconic
    The 50's Cap was retconned to be someone else much later on, when someone decided to cover up what Stan Lee decided to overlook.

    I'm not sure what about his death made him iconic, especially with everyone putting on his old gear and trying to be him. Could you explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Of Orphans View Post
    The 50's Cap was retconned to be someone else much later on, when someone decided to cover up what Stan Lee decided to overlook.

    I'm not sure what about his death made him iconic, especially with everyone putting on his old gear and trying to be him. Could you explain?
    Besides Gwen and Uncle Ben he was the only character to stay dead that had a relevance today (or before they were revived i should say).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Of Orphans View Post
    Load of bull. His first death was actually a retcon made by Stan Lee. Captain America and Bucky actually both came out of the war alive and fought communists in 50s comics, which were later canceled due to low sales. Stan Lee retconned it so that Bucky died and Cap was frozen in ice when the Avengers found him.

    His death may have at one point been important to the character, but its lost its relevance over the years. They can't always go back to it, it gets boring. Bringing him back and having Steve feel guilty about letting him become the Winter Soldier made it relevant again.
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